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Is it Pressure or Embarrasment? Both? Neither?

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Currently with the population becoming more Hispanic, English-speaking citizens (white, black & asian) are learning spanish. But the descendants of spanish-speaking families either are speaking "Spanglish" or have decided to reject spanish and speak english only. So pretty soon all of "us" will be speaking spanish and all of "them" will be speaking english haha. I love spanish and think it's a beautiful language. I don't see why anyone born speaking spanish would ever want to reject it. It's a part of who you are and like I mentioned, it's beautiful. My husband is from El Salvador and we are raising our children speaking spanish only as much as possible in our home and when they are school age, they will learn english. It makes me sad to think people are losing touch with who they are. Having a foreign culture and language is exotic and refreshing. If you have that guard it and be proud! "Blending in" isn't worth it! So this brings me to my next question. Do you think "english" society is putting too much pressure on foreigners to speak english or is this simply descendants rejecting who they are because they see it as a set-back? Both?

I really appreciate everyone's posts! But my question is still unanswered! Is society putting too much pressure on speaking english? Or do hispanic descendants feel it's a set back? Or a mix of both?

Most jobs do prefer a bilingual employee in Texas. (English/Spanish speaking)

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updated Mar 2, 2011
edited by lorenaventura
posted by lorenaventura
Yes Loren having another language is something to treasure not to be ashamed of or lose - FELIZ77, Mar 2, 2011

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I agree with Guillermo. We speak Spanish at home. My kid has done a great job picking up very good English at school, from TV, and yakking away with his buddies at school.

Every now and them him and I speak in English for a while, and I make corrections, just as I correct him when his Spanish fails. I am confident that he will grow up to be fully fluent on both languages, without a particularly great effort.

updated Mar 2, 2011
posted by Gekkosan
Wow I wish my dad had been able to do that. He did encourage me with both my Spanish and English but was sadly not fluent in Spansish - FELIZ77, Mar 2, 2011
Spanish - FELIZ77, Mar 2, 2011
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Our kids are not allowed to speak English at home, unless they have friends, but you are right, I see the same as you in the area I live. Not only with Spanish speakers. The same happens with people from India, for example. I think they believe they are more "american" that way. I guess they feel more integrated. They don't realize that they are not helping their kids making them loose the language.

updated Mar 2, 2011
posted by 00e657d4
Muchas Gracias! Usted me ayuda mucho! - lorenaventura, Mar 2, 2011
And I'm glad your kids are speaking spanish only in your home! I'd give you a high five if I could lol - lorenaventura, Mar 2, 2011
lose the language - samdie, Mar 2, 2011
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Ron, I do not agree with you. Sadly, in England''s past days of colonialism, (which thankfully are over'!) English people went to conquer new lands and establish English as the predominant language óf that country and they did not speak the language of the country they lived in they expected native people of that land to learn to speak English.

This is not unlike the behaviour of many Expats in such countries as Spain who go to live out there and make little effort to speak the language of the country in which they are living or to integrate with the natives of that country. How do I know you ask?

Well, while on Holiday in Pineda de Mar, near Barcelona, I spoke, in Spanish with a Spanish native girl who used to hire out the beach equipment and she told me that these people were resented by many native people because of their unwillingness to learn to speak their Spanish language ie the language of the country in which they were living. It is no good for USA or British citizens to have one rule for other people and another one for us

I think that we should respect the rights of a different people group to speak their native language provided that they also make an effort to speak the language of the country in which they are living but that goes for all people British people and USA citizens alike!

updated Mar 2, 2011
edited by FELIZ77
posted by FELIZ77
Sounds like you do agree with me Feliiz. You say Expats in Spain make little effort to speak the language and I guess you do not like that. I do not like to see Spanish speaking people living in the USA not making any effort to learn English. - Ron_Austin, Mar 2, 2011
I believe Ron is correct here. People definitely should make the effort to learn the language of the country where they're living. I am equally annoyed by English speakers who can't speak more than a handful of word of Spanish after living in a Hispanic.. - Gekkosan, Mar 2, 2011
...country for 20 years, than by Spanish speakers who can't communicate in English after a lifetime in the U.S. Preserve your cultural heritage? Yes, by all means. But refuse to learn your host country's language? To me that's both rude and..... - Gekkosan, Mar 2, 2011
..a terrible handicap. - Gekkosan, Mar 2, 2011
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I think it is good that you are teaching your children to speak Spanish at home, but you are doing them a great dis-service by not teaching them to speak English as well. To wait until they are in school before they learn English makes no sense to me. It will be much harder for them to lean English then. If you are only going to teach them one language then it should be the language of the place you live - America.

updated Mar 2, 2011
posted by Ron_Austin
Point taken!This was considered when we made our decision. But like you said everyone here speaks english! they would be less likely to pick up spanish later on! and speaking english and spanish leads to spanglish! - lorenaventura, Mar 2, 2011
We do incorporate a little english for just this reason! - lorenaventura, Mar 2, 2011
Both of my kids are bilingual. They speak better English than I do. We try to keep them from loosing the Spanish. - 00e657d4, Mar 2, 2011
Losing the spanish - FELIZ77, Mar 2, 2011
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Just as an aside to this debate: my mother only spoke Polish when she first arrived at school. She was born here and my grandparents both spoke only Polish for years with a smattering of broken English.

When my mother regales me with the story of showing up at school and that poor little six year old thinking everyone speaks English except her. I pointed out to her that the only kids communicating in the class were the Irish immigrant kids.

My mother said one day she raised her hand, stood up and answered a question in perfect English. She maintains she was completely unaware that she had learned the language. This event took place three months after school started.

On the other hand, my mother married 'out': I am part Irish. My mother never spoke to me in Polish so I understand very little. I was never taught under the guise of not being disrespectful to my father. I have a Polish/Italian friend who asked me, "Do you...?" I didn't even need him to finish the sentence and responded, "No, for the same reason as you." We both regret we were not raised in another language.

My grandmother eventually learned English so well she refused to allow anyone, except a select few (read my grandfather), speak to her in Polish. She was able to read The New York Times from front to back with complete ease.

No insulting remarks about my grandmother, under the cover of jokes. Thanks.

updated Mar 2, 2011
posted by Ann-Frances
I agree! Kids will learn english in school! I have Irish heritage too! My great-grandparents spoke Gaelic...I on the otherhand know nothing! I wish I did speak Gaelic! I can only say "mo cuishle" - lorenaventura, Mar 2, 2011
My father spoke Gaelic. I can only say "Sleinte...." - Ann-Frances, Mar 2, 2011
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I am attending Spanish IV at a local Community College. What surprised me was all the young english speaking Latinos (raised in America) in the class. At first I couldn't figure it out. Based on what you have said I would say their parents or other relatives are asking them to keep up on their Spanish?

updated Mar 2, 2011
posted by MattM
Either that or they were never taught. And realize now what an asset it is. Most jobs require or prefer someone who is bilingual! - lorenaventura, Mar 2, 2011
Good point. Its tough to watch them struggle. Its harder on them because they are expected to speak Spanish. - MattM, Mar 2, 2011
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I think it is good that you are teaching your children to speak Spanish at home, but you are doing them a great dis-service by not teaching them to speak English as well. To wait until they are in school before they learn English makes no sense to me. It will be much harder for them to lean English then. If you are only going to teach them one language then it should be the language of the place you live - America .

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They will learn English. No way to prevent that if they live here.

When we came to America in 2002, my kids were 6 and 11 years old. My older already knew some English from elementary school in Argentina. The little one only knew some colors and the numbers from 1 to 10.

By now, both of them speak English and Spanish with no accent in either language. They have more trouble with the Spanish actually, because they only speak it a home ant they don't have a rich vocabulary as they have in English. We encourage them to read Spanish books. That's the only way they will learn the words we don't use in every day's speech.

updated Mar 2, 2011
posted by 00e657d4
La Verdad! - lorenaventura, Mar 2, 2011