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There is something about object pronouns I am failing miserably to understand. I am trying to do this worksheet, and I don't get it at all.:

3 - Las instrucciones Una actriz sin mucha experiencia recibe consejos de su agente, quien los reitera para que ella no los olvide. Reemplaza las palabras subrayadas con los pronombres adecuados.

1.Antes de empezar, saluda a todo el público. Recuerda:

Antes de empezar, los saluda. (mi repuesta incorrecta)

2.No muevas tanto la boca al hablar. Recuerda:

No no muevas la al hablar (incorrecto)

3.Evita los gestos exagerados con la cara y las manos. Recuerda:

Las evitas. (incorrecto)

4.Deja las escenas de riesgo para tu doble. Recuerda:

Para tu doble las deja. (incorrecto...otra vez)

5.Estudia bien tu papel. Recuerda:

Lo estudias bien. (incorrecto támbien)

8.Debes hablar bien a los otros actores. Recuerda:

Debes los hablar bien. (Ay, no me gusta objectos indirectos o directos.)

................................................................................................. Espero que alguien puede ayúdame. ¡Estoy tan perdio!

Seré ser tú amigo mejor para siempre...smile

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updated Feb 28, 2011
posted by renee83

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Object pronouns can be attached to the end of the verb if the verb is: 1) an infinitive, eg. Debes hacerlo (You should do it.); 2) a "positive" imperative/command (this always has the OP attached at the end), e.g. Olvídalo (Forget it.); or 3) a present participle e.g. Estoy esperándote (I'm waiting for you.). For all the other forms, the O.P. precedes the verb.

Item # 1 has two possibilities, since "saluda" can either be an imperative or in 3rd person indicative.

If it is an imperative, it would be: "...salúdalo." (Greet/Address the audience.)

If indicative: "...lo saluda." (He/she greets the audience.)

PS: I noticed that you almost always change the verb when providing your answer. The instruction is just to replace the underlined words with the correct OP. So keep the verbs as they are, & focus on which OP to use & where to place them.

updated Oct 10, 2011
edited by Deanski
posted by Deanski
Oh jeez, you're right. I didn't even notice that I was changing the verb. Pienso yo necesitar un descansito :) - renee83, Feb 26, 2011
Creo que sí :) - Deanski, Feb 27, 2011
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In #1, I think you wanted an IOP there, even though in English it's a DOP. It would be les rather than los.

In #2, you have the right pronoun. But remember it goes before the verb! So it should have been "No la muevas tanto al hablar."

In #3, the direct object is "los" gestos. So it's "Los" evita.

In #4 I think you did OK except for your sentence order. Las deja para tu doble,

In #5, Estudia in the first sentence doesn't agree with estudiaS in the second. The first sentence is saying that someone else studies your paper.

In #8, the pronoun has to come before debes. And it looks to me as if the pronoun should be les, since it is replacing what is clearly an indirect object. But in that case, les should have been in the first sentence as well, because the iop is always required, even when the IO is included. So I'm not sure about that.

updated Feb 26, 2011
posted by Goyo
¡Mil gracias a ti! - renee83, Feb 26, 2011
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Renee, the pronouns will sometimes be placed before the verb, and sometimes after. In some cases, you can actually choose. This depends on the sentence structure and the tenses used. Your grammar book will probably explain this in more detail.

But in the cases above, when we're talking about a positive command, they need to follow the verb, and they need to be tacked onto the verb. So you might want to read up on that.

When you get to the subjunctive, there are indirect commands where this gets a bit more involved, but that doesn't matter for now.

Good luck wink

updated Feb 28, 2011
posted by Vikingo
This was the problem that I was having in this case...they were positive commands and I didn't recognize that. I'll get it someday! :) Thanks! - renee83, Feb 28, 2011
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Dear Renee,

Maybe you should go back to the basics. People are trying to be helpful by giving you the right answers, but if you don't understand basic sentence structure, it will still be confusing to you.

You need to be able to translate into English (in your head) the sentences your teacher gave you, so you know what they are actually saying.

Then you can understand that a certain group of words like "todo el público" is the group that needs to change to a direct object pronoun (dop) or indirect object pronoun (iop). These are the words like: la, lo, le, les. They are the equivalent in English to us changing "the boys" to "they" or "the dancer" to "she".

Would you know how to find the direct object or the indirect object in an English sentence? If that confuses you, you will have a problem with Spanish sentence construction also.

See if you can review Paralee's lesson 2.3 which discusses the subject. Once you have caught on to the "system" of it, I'm sure you will do very well. It is tough, but not insurmountable!

Best of luck to you!

updated Feb 26, 2011
posted by NancyGrace
Why does she need to translate it to English? Isn't that the step we want to avoid in order to truly become fluent? - Goyo, Feb 26, 2011
Yes, ideally you are correct, but if is a little "wobbly" on grammar and sentence structure, then it helps if one knows what the sentence says so one can "diagram" it. I am not clear that she is fluent that way. I know it helped me at the beginning to - NancyGrace, Feb 26, 2011
translate in my head, and then as I got more learning (and vocabulary) the grammar came easier. - NancyGrace, Feb 26, 2011
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Perhaps for No 1 because 'el público' is a singular masc noun you would use 'lo' saluda. Here's a thread on a similar topic that you might find helpful. lo saluda

updated Feb 26, 2011
posted by Kiwi-Girl
Thanks Kiwi Girl, that was helpful! - renee83, Feb 26, 2011
No. El público is the subject of the sentence. - Goyo, Feb 26, 2011