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Is it pronounced "Oh - D- E-E - oh" or "OH - dee - oh"

Is it pronounced "Oh - D- E-E - oh" or "OH - dee - oh"

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It seems obvious that it should be ''Oh - DEE - oh'', but the title for this episode is ''I hate mysteries'' and it very clearly says ''OH - dee - oh'' los misterios. But like ''OOOOOH - dee - oh'' los misterios which makes me say what the...... are they just saying it wrong? Surely it must be ''Oh - DEE - oh'' right? Gracias.

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updated Feb 10, 2011
edited by webdunce
posted by jeezzle
Corrected a formatting problem caused by using double quote marks in the first couple of lines of an opening post. I replaced each of double-quote marks with two apostrophes. - webdunce, Feb 8, 2011
OH-thyoh, if I may. :-) Go a little easy on the th, though. - webdunce, Feb 8, 2011

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There are two syllables and the stress is on the first one. The vowels "i" and "u" are weak, so "io" is one syllable while "ío" is two syllables. The common word ending "ía" is similarly different from "ia".

syllables

updated Feb 9, 2011
posted by lorenzo9
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Hey Jeezzle I don't know if this will help, but some other examples of 'weak' vowels like this:

  • Nadie - emphasis on Na - Die is a diphthong (Not na-di-e) weak 'i'

  • Limpio/a - emphasis on Lim - Pio/a is a diphthong (Not Lim-pi-o/a) weak 'i'

  • Nicaragua - emphasis on Ra - Gua is a diphthong (Not Nicara-gu-a) weak 'u'

  • Contiguo/a - not Contiguo/a

So, odio is really closest to 'limpio', I bet you've heard that said a lot. (and sucio, come to think of it!)

Oh, you like music too don't you - Odio - Revolver

Hope it helps. smile

updated Feb 9, 2011
posted by galsally
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It seems obvious that it should be "Oh - DEE - oh"

Obviously it is not! "Oh" contains two vowel sounds, and the second one does not even exist in Spanish. "DEE" has a consonant that does not exist in Spanish (and sounds almost like our R), plus a vowel which is much longer than any Spanish vowel. Basically, that does not sound like Spanish... at all! The correct word should have four sounds, but you pronounce with six sounds instead, three of which do not exist in Spanish, and one artificially long, making the result barely 35% similar to the true sound. Why do you Americans insist in using that Craa-PEE Foh-neh-TIC useless thing?

and it very clearly says "OH - dee - oh"

Then clearly you are not watching a Spanish thing, or your hearing is not used to Spanish yet, because there is no way Spanish sounds like that

are they just saying it wrong? Surely it must be "Oh - DEE - oh" right? Gracias.

No offence, but if you think that those oh-DEE things sound like Spanish, I doubt you can differenciate properly pronounced Spanish from badly pronounced Spanish.

updated Feb 9, 2011
edited by lazarus1907
posted by lazarus1907
The /CRAH-pee/ system, flawed as it is, is still a handy and familiar way for us to quickly get our point across. With oh-DEE-oh, Jeezle quickly informed us that he has been pronouncing odio as though it were written odío, which is incorrect. - webdunce, Feb 8, 2011
I would write odio as /OH-thyoh/, by the way if trying to explain the sound to another English speaker. We are using conventions we are familiar with. For example, OH means long o sound. Likely because of the interjection, "Oh!" which is pronounced... - webdunce, Feb 8, 2011
...like our long o sound. EE is long e. EH is short e. AH is short a, etc. These are conventions we all recognize having all had to struggle our whole lives with an almost non-phonetic writing system (unlike you lucky Spaniards). :-) - webdunce, Feb 8, 2011
Still, your recommendation to use IPA certainly has its advantages: http://www.spanishdict.com/answers/172329/introduction-to-the-i-p-a - webdunce, Feb 8, 2011
You know what, Writiing it is not an exact science. I can't exactly write it as I hear it. Your comments are always welcome, abrasive as they might be. - jeezzle, Feb 8, 2011
I'd like to know what Lazarus is like, I can't decide whether you'd be a grumpy old man or simply detached enough in your dealings with people that you take no offence to direct and intellectual challenges and therefore assume that other can interact... - afowen, Feb 9, 2011
... with similar detachment. I'm thinking the latter :-) - afowen, Feb 9, 2011
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That word is spelled oddly in English. It is diphthong; not dipthong. In Spanish that odd "h" is not there: diptongo

The 1st person, singular [present tense, indicative mood] of odiar is odio. It is the same word as the noun for hate: odio.

If you wish to know how to pronounce it, just look up the noun and click on the speaker icon to hear it pronounced.

updated Feb 8, 2011
posted by 0074b507
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Odio es una palabra llana. If a word ends in a,e,u,i,o,n or s the stress always falls on the penultimate syllable (sílaba penúltima). The dipthong is io, so the stress is placed on the first o. When words don't follow this rule an accent is found. Por ejemplo: estómago. I and u are weak vowels and a, e, o are strong vowels. A dipthong is a combination of the two (14 total).

updated Feb 8, 2011
edited by pescador1
posted by pescador1
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Odié would mean I hated - odiE

I hate is odio, I think that different letters are drawn out in Spanish as compared to English. In English one might say 'I haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaate' whereas in Spanish one might say 'Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooodio'.

updated Feb 8, 2011
edited by afowen
posted by afowen
Yes but the O should never be emphasised, the I should be emphasised. - jeezzle, Feb 8, 2011
I think there are only two syllables - 1-o 2-dio, so, it would be pronounced O dio, the reason is that the io is a dipthong and therefore one sound, Like O-dyo might sound in English. - afowen, Feb 8, 2011
There are three syllables. - jeezzle, Feb 8, 2011
I don´t think so Jez. I don´t think it is o-di-o, rather od-io or o-dio. The io is one sound, a dipthong, the i and o together make one sound, if not, one vowel would carry a tilde or umlaut. I am not a hater and so have not had much practise... - afowen, Feb 8, 2011
... but would pronounce it O-deo... - afowen, Feb 8, 2011
*practice - afowen, Feb 8, 2011
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you are correct

updated Feb 8, 2011
posted by falcon4
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Then there are words like "coihué".

updated Feb 10, 2011
posted by lorenzo9
huh?? - 00494d19, Feb 9, 2011
Lots of vowels in a row makes it hard to pronounce--fortunately, it rarely comes up in conversation. - lorenzo9, Feb 9, 2011
Does the accent mark function to limit it to a triphthong? - 0074b507, Feb 10, 2011
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Wow, Jeezle, I must say, I did not even understand this post! big surprise

You must at least post the word you are actually trying to pronounce, I sometimes use this phonetic system , but it is true, it does not sound Spanishwink

"o DEE o"

Unrecognizable, absolutely.

the stress is on the first syllable.

I say it that way all the time, never have I been corrected.

Yeah, tell me about it! rolleyes

People don't correct people who they think have a certain level, as they think they are being rude or something.

updated Feb 10, 2011
posted by 00494d19
Yes, his spoken Spanish is probably actually quite good compared to most of us gringos...and I certainly don't go around correcting foreigners, especially if they generally speak quite well except for a word here or there. - webdunce, Feb 8, 2011
And, yeah, I thought the post title was him humming a tune or something...like...da-da-da-dun! - webdunce, Feb 8, 2011
jejeje, right web, just like me, I thought the very same thing!! jeje, funny really, hey, this proves our point, this was not even recognizable for an English native! I mean.... - 00494d19, Feb 8, 2011
People correct me all the time :red: - lorenzo9, Feb 8, 2011
I wish people would correct me when I am wrong, how else can I get right? - jeezzle, Feb 8, 2011
I'm with you lorenzo9, except people just tell me how stupid I am all of the time. They don't waste time bothering with corrections. - 0074b507, Feb 10, 2011
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I'm certain I know close to 20,000 now

I think I'll be fluent by the time I get to half that many. . .probably in about 2 or 3 more years.

updated Feb 9, 2011
posted by lorenzo9
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That's weird, many of my friends say "o DEE o" and I say it that way all the time, never have I been corrected.

So you're saying the reason why lluvia is pronounced JU - via is becuase the ia is some dipthong thing? I usually just say it how I hear it, and never notice the vowels etc... except rare cases, (I hate grammar and book learning, I prefer immersion learning although I do love reading, Lit major) I guess I didn't realize that verbs could be split in the same fashion, O- dio. Damn that's a bit irritating after all this time to realize another rule to learn, I wonder how many verbs split like this, I guess everything with ia, io, and all the other ones Laz listed, too many to just remember off hand what the key letters are.

Probably just easier to keep on remembering them how I hear them, and count odiar as one verb that I have been mishearing and keep this dipthong rule in the back of my mind, rather than attempt a full rehash of all my words, I'm certain I know close to 20,000 now, I will take that one as a hiccup instead of a fullstop brick wall, as will I accept this dipthong thing as a new minor setback and not a stopping point for rethinking anything. Otherwise I will simply lose my mind. I once asked my mom about a rule, and she didn't know it, she just full learned how they said it, not the why. I think I will keep on going that route, and only look back once I am in the fluent zone, to reshine my surfaces.

updated Feb 8, 2011
edited by jeezzle
posted by jeezzle
Everyone here puts the accent on the first syllable. - lorenzo9, Feb 8, 2011
By here I meant the village where I live in Ecuador. - lorenzo9, Feb 8, 2011
L O L just teasing ya. Hey have you ever visited Robertico? He lives in Ecuador. - jeezzle, Feb 8, 2011
Jez, maybe it doesn´t make that much of a difference whether you say oDEEo or Odio, I guess the major differentiator would come in stressing the last syllable, whether you use 2 or 3, stressing the last (as you know) would make it 'he hated' - afowen, Feb 8, 2011
Certainly, but hiting this word wrong is unacceptable, I aim for perfect pronuncation. So I will go by ear, like I have been, with the background dipthong thought that I only need to use when using a new word that I havent heard, not much then. - jeezzle, Feb 8, 2011
I think that how and what we hear is affected by what we expect to hear. - webdunce, Feb 8, 2011
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Wait so it only affects I and U because they are somehow weak, and all the other endings will always be touching an I or U, I guess that makes it easier to remember.

updated Feb 8, 2011
posted by jeezzle