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Why does "cuantos' reduce the amount with unos?

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Example: Unos días = some amount of days. Unos cuantos días = a few days.

Veamos a unos cuantos de estos. Let's look at a few of these. Or is unos cuantos just an idiom for a few? Gracias.

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updated Jan 19, 2011
posted by jeezzle

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I was always thinking that "unos cuantos" = a few. Is that wrong? So "unos cuantos días" isn't a few days? and "unos días" isn't just some days, amount not specific? Gracias.

I don't agree with our famous green manwink

If I say:

Me he ido unos cuantos días a Méjico.

and

Me he ido unos días a Méjico.

In the first sentence I would understand, several days...not just a couple.In the second I would understand a couple of days, less than in the first sentence.

Tengo alumnos. I have some students.

Tengo unos cuantos alumnos. I have quite a lot of students actually.

updated Jan 19, 2011
posted by 00494d19
Evidentemente, considerando los ejempos citados, hay una diferencia interpretativa en diferentes regiones. - Gekkosan, Jan 19, 2011
Evidently, considering the samples quoted, thee is a different interpretation in different regions. - Gekkosan, Jan 19, 2011
I think it may be also a contextual thing: I agree that I'd interpret "unos cuantos alumnos" as "quite a few": I'd also interpret "internet para unos cuantos" as "internet for (just) a few". - Gekkosan, Jan 19, 2011
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I do not agree with that idea. I think it is just the opposite.

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unos pocos días ---->a few days ---> El resfrío me duró unos pocos días /=/ El resfrío me duró unos días

unos cuantos días ----> several days -- more days than expected ---> No pensé que el resfrío fuera grave, pero estuve enfermo unos cuantos días.

updated Jan 19, 2011
posted by mediterrunio
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They go on and on. If "unos cuantos" does not mean a few then I am totally lost,

It does mean a few, it depends on context and regional usage if you mean quite a few or just a fewwink

From cogumela in Heidita's "if you could rob someone" thread........Si pudiera, les robaría a los franceses unos cuantos cuadros del Louvre. Does it mean a few, or more than a few, or quite a bit more than a few?

Here this could be interpreted either way, Jeezle, I would guess a few as in not many here, as it would be difficult to rob a painting wink

Conclusion: it means a few, depending on regional and personal usage and interpretation, it can mean quite a few, or just a few, or as Lorenzo says, some, jeje

updated Jan 19, 2011
posted by 00494d19
Yes, I agree with this conclusion. - Gekkosan, Jan 19, 2011
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unos cuantos = quite a few

Not to beat this thing to death and beyond, here's what WordReference has to say:

  1. unos cuantos a few;

    unos ~s amigos a few friends;

    había unas cuantas personas there were several o quite a few people there

Again, I fully agree with Heidita's conclusion.

updated Jan 19, 2011
edited by Gekkosan
posted by Gekkosan
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unos cuantos = quite a few

  1.    An indefinite and somewhat large number; more than a few but fewer than a lot; a fair number of.
    

    I've watched quite a few basketball games in my time.

    He mirado unos cuantos partidos de básquetbol en mi época

updated Jan 19, 2011
posted by mediterrunio
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I'd also interpret "internet para unos cuantos" as "internet for (just) a few". - Gekkosan

Hmm, well I wouldn't.

I would think for quite a lot of people.

Just a few...para unos pocos.

updated Jan 19, 2011
posted by 00494d19
¡Pero mira el contexto del artículo enlazado! Claramente en el contexto citado, el significado es "unos pocos", no muchos. "Unos cuantos tiros más no nos van a detener. Ya hemos arriesgado demasiado."" - Gekkosan, Jan 19, 2011
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English--sometimes it's more and sometimes it's less

And let us not forget what a simple modifier like "quite" can do to the meaning. In many contexts "quite" is quite similar to "very" e.g. "She's quite beautiful." When used to modify "few", however, it completely reverses the usual meanings of "few" e.g. "He spent quite a few days there." means "a lot of days"

updated Jan 19, 2011
posted by samdie
Then there's quite a lot, where it acts as expected...making quite a lot and quite a few fairly synonymous though they look like they should be opposites. - webdunce, Jan 19, 2011
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This is starting to sound like a discussion of whether "some" is more or less than "a few" in English--sometimes it's more and sometimes it's less and there is considerable variation in usage.

Carry on! smile

updated Jan 19, 2011
posted by lorenzo9
Exactly. :-) - Gekkosan, Jan 19, 2011
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I think everyone's sort of right here. "Unos cuantos" means "a few". You can use it in the literal way to mean "not many", "a handful", or you can use it in an ironic way, to mean "more than just a couple".

Eg:

"Internet ultrarápìda, para unos cuantos" ( ""Los servicios ... serán sólo para sectores de nicho, empresas o aquellos que tengan una solvencia económica muy alta y que en verdad necesiten esa tecnología") So in this case it clearly means "just a few (privileged ones).

"Unos cuantos envoltorios increíbles". This is a blog page that shows a sampler (a handful) of amazing packaging designs.

"Unos cuantos tiros más no nos detendrán". We won't be stopped by a few more shots.

"Duvalier se robó unos cuantos dólares durante su mandato" . Duvalier stole a few bucks during his term (he has been accused of stealing millions of dollars).

Me tomé unos días de vacaciones: I took a few day's worth of vacation / Pedro ya se ha tomado unos cuantos días de vacaciones - Pedro has already taken (quite) a few day's worth of vacation (meaning ironically that perhaps he's had more than his fair share.

Altogether, though, I agree that the most common, normal meaning is "a few".

updated Jan 19, 2011
posted by Gekkosan
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I was always thinking that "unos cuantos" = a few. Is that wrong? So "unos cuantos días" isn't a few days? and "unos días" isn't just some days, amount not specific? Gracias.

updated Jan 19, 2011
posted by jeezzle
As I said in my post, and I´m sory if I can´t be clearer, I think you have the wrong assumption. For me, unos cuantos is more than a few. and Unos = unos pocos - mediterrunio, Jan 18, 2011
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My assumption, which I have believed for some time now, comes from these sources.

Word Magic - Definition of "unos cuantos"

Spanishdict.com Definition of "unos cuantos"

Spanishdict.com thread A

Spanishdict.com thread B

They go on and on. If "unos cuantos" does not mean a few then I am totally lost, and have been given numerous incorrect answers, and this site is full of them by natives if that is the case. I might just not be understanding your answer though.

From cogumela in Heidita's "if you could rob someone" thread........Si pudiera, les robaría a los franceses unos cuantos cuadros del Louvre. Does it mean a few, or more than a few, or quite a bit more than a few? I always thought it meant "just a few, a few" or a small amount? I don't mean to dispute a native, but I am quite sure that once upon a time Heidita told me that it meant a few as well. Gracias.

updated Jan 19, 2011
edited by webdunce
posted by jeezzle
Fixed link by using tinyurl.com to convert the wordmagic link into a short link without spaces. - webdunce, Jan 18, 2011
I think that thge context of the use of unos cuantos is different . unos cuantos may be equal to a few, but not always. In your original question, it does not. - mediterrunio, Jan 19, 2011
I think Word Magic is not a very reliable source - mediterrunio, Jan 19, 2011
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unos pocos días ---->a few days ---> El resfrío me duró unos pocos días /=/ El resfrío me duró unos días In this example of the cold I believe that the English translation would have the understanding - The cold lasted (only) a few days. (unos pocos días) Then *El resfrío me duró unos días** doesn't mean quite the same - but instead -The cold lasted a few days.

unos cuantos días** ----> several days -- more days than expected ---> No pensé que el resfrío fuera grave, pero estuve enfermo unos cuantos días.

unos cuantos días to me this is just 'a few days' and has no expectancy for more. I didn't ththink the cold was serious but I was sick a few days.

That's my take. Jeezle I agree with your post. Medit - not so much (!)

updated Jan 19, 2011
posted by margaretbl
I think we cannot agree because you´re evaluating the Spanish version with an English concept of the terms and viceversa.. And so did Jeezle so he posted his question. - mediterrunio, Jan 19, 2011
Yes, I agree, in the end there is no getting away from that. (and then maybe regionalisms - my basic understanding is from the Spain usage) - margaretbl, Jan 19, 2011
I was thinking that ´unos cuantos´ in this case could be translted as ´quite a few´... what do you think? it´s a small number but not so small in a specific situation. - mediterrunio, Jan 19, 2011
as regards Spain usage, i think Heidita´s exmaple is a good one too. - mediterrunio, Jan 19, 2011