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A question about 'su' and sus'

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In this sentence would i use 'su' or 'sus'? Maybe i can use either?

Beth y Josh celebran su cumpleaños

I always thought it would be 'sus' but somebody told me not. Help, little confused

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updated Jan 11, 2011
posted by dizzy-and-wasted

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A birthday is one thing (El cumpleaños).

Here it appears there are two birthdays being celebrated, so sus should be used.

updated Jan 11, 2011
posted by 005faa61
I agree, it just took me a while to get there! :) - 0066c384, Jan 11, 2011
Well I don't agree, see my post. - kenwilliams, Jan 11, 2011
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It is one birthday that they both share Su cumpleaños and not sus cumpleaños.

updated Jan 11, 2011
posted by kenwilliams
Ken, even twins have their own birthdays. It is possible that just one birthday is being celebrated, but then it must be "Josh y Beth celbran el cumpleaños de (somebody)" without a personal pronoun unless prior context is given, which it isn´t here - 005faa61, Jan 11, 2011
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The problem I see is that "cumpleaños" can be either plural or singular. If written in English, this would be "Beth and Josh celebrate their birthday(s)", so the plural is not a problem in this sentence.

If I were to construct this sentence prior to this question, I would have said "sus" because I am still trying to translate from English to Spanish. If you run the sentence through the translator engines on this site, you get both "su" and "sus".

I'm going with "sus" on this one, even though the dicitonary says "su" can mean "their". I don't know if "cumpleaños" is singular or plural in this sentence, but if multiple birthdays are involved it should be "sus". To me, "Beth y Josh" implies multiple birthdays.

updated Jan 11, 2011
edited by 0066c384
posted by 0066c384
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It must agree with the object, which is "cumpleaños." Cumpleaños is singular, although it may appear plural.

updated Jan 11, 2011
edited by scruggsjaredp
posted by scruggsjaredp
Or it is plural which is indistinguishable from the singular, absent context. - samdie, Jan 11, 2011
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I can see why you're confused.

updated Jan 11, 2011
posted by Leatha