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Why is the verb "comunicar" not conjugated in this example?

Why is the verb "comunicar" not conjugated in this example?

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En nuestra autobus hay un aviso "Por calquier consulta, surgencia, or queja por favor comunicarse con la administratión en horas de oficina."

Dos preguntas--

  1. ¿Por que usan el infinitivo comunicar? ¿Por que no el imperitivo "comunique o comuniquen?

  2. ¿Por que "se"? ¿Es reflexiva?

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updated Jan 6, 2011
posted by gandydancer2

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Web, I had a thought when I was reading your post. The sign "No Smoking" in English uses the gerund form of the infinitive "to smoke". The dictionary says a gerund is a "verbal noun", so the sign really says "No + (noun)".

As Lazarus indicated in another post, infinitives are nouns in Spanish. To me, it appears the English/Spanish language structure is similar in these advisory signs.

Spanish "No + (infinitive but handled as a noun)" English "No + (gerund or verbal noun)"

I may be terribly off course here, but maybe someone can correct me if I'm wrong.

updated Jan 6, 2011
posted by 0066c384
Certainly a possibility, but I've no idea. However, in Spanish, the infinitive can be noun...it isn't always one. - webdunce, Jan 6, 2011
*a noun (oops) - webdunce, Jan 6, 2011
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I think (but am not sure) that comunicar would have more the feeling of "inform/tell the administration" while comunicarse has more the feeling of "talk with the administration."

Also, I know that negative commands on public signs (for example, no smoking) is often done with infinitives (no fumar). I wonder if there is now a trend to do the same with positive commands on public signs...or perhaps it's a regional thing.

I get the feeling that using infinitives for commands gives a very "institutional" feel to them.

But those are the musings of a person who has self-studied Spanish for 3 or 4 years...not of a Spanish expert or Spanish native.

Also, Lazarus's comment makes me wonder how the infinitive came to be used for negative institutional commands (e.g., no fumar). As for the English, I would think our short "no smoking" (which is a public or institutional command, but certainly not in English imperative, which would be "don't smoke") would be a shortened form of something like "There is to be no smoking here" or "No smoking is permitted here."

updated Jan 6, 2011
posted by webdunce
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To me the sentence is unacceptable, but there is an increasing tendency to omit the main verb in polite requests, for some reason:

Por calquier consulta, surgencia, or queja, haga el favor de comunicarse con la administratión en horas de oficina.

updated Jan 6, 2011
edited by lazarus1907
posted by lazarus1907