A su vez..?

Question

Good morning mis amigos..

"Y esto se explica con lo que se llama mito de la caverna en la que Platón dice que hay una serie de personajes que están encadenados y detrás de ellos un muro que a su vez detrás y por encima hay una luz que hace que se proyecten enfrente de esos hombres las sombras de figurillas de hombres, animales y otros elementos."

To be honest, I don't know what a su vez means here... Thanks for your help in advance...

Feliz año guapa, muchas gracias por todo:) - 00494d19, Jan 2, 2011

Feliz año Heidita, igualmente! :) - culé, Jan 2, 2011

This is off-topic, but do you happen to know how they call Aristotle in Spanish? Thanks. - Deanski, Jan 2, 2011

Aristóteles.. ;) - culé, Jan 2, 2011

Answer 1

a su vez = in turn or at the same time

Thanks lorenzo, so there is nothing wrong with the grammar? - culé, Jan 2, 2011

The wordreference forum has around 40 threads on "a su vez", so I think I'll avoid it until I'm more advanced, but I don't think it's wrong. ;) - lorenzo9, Jan 2, 2011

Answer 2

I believe this comes from Plato, Allegory of the Cave.

This was a very bad translation I found.

In the text to his disciple Plato explains his theory of the sensible world and the world of ideas. Y esto se explica con lo que se llama mito de la caverna en la que Platón dice que hay una serie de personajes que están encadenados y detrás de ellos un muro que a su vez detrás y por encima hay una luz que hace que se proyecten enfrente de esos hombres las sombras de figurillas de hombres, animales y otros elementos.

And this explains the so-called myth of the cave in which Plato said that a number of characters who are chained and behind them a turn wall behind and above is a light that makes projecting front of these men in the shadows of figures of men, animals and other items.

What the hell is "a turn wall"

Thanks Eddy, as I've been searching for this myth for like a month or so, I know the subject, and I can guess the meaning but I'm trying to improve my Spanish at the same time, therefore what I didn't understand is that phrase, I mean grammatically.. :) - culé, Jan 2, 2011

Answer 3

the wall is behind the people and, in turn, behind the wall a fire/light which ...

Answer 4

I think I am too simple to appreciate the intricacy of this - to me isn't it just 'and in turn' for example 'Bob picked up the vegetables from Joe who in turn got them from the farm'.....It sounds a little old fashioned but Plato...

Answer 5

oh, ves, culé, la frase estaba cortada, con lo que no tenía sentido.

A su vez...hmmm, complicado de explicar, vamos a ver si se mete algún especialista, llama a Lazarus al hilo, no sé explicarlo. ¿Quizás cogumela? Gekko? jeje, tiene perfecto sentido ahora...pero no es fácil de explicar.

Answer 6

a su vez = in addition

Answer 7

Bien, ''a su vez" is a phrase i don't think i have ever heard in my years in México; ''a la vez'' I have heard frequently, meaning "'at the same time.'' Because this a translation from greek in an much older time, it is probably the usage of that time and would appear to be correct for that time.

Answer 8

Well, I don't think I get it. What's a turn wall exactly? What does it look like? I haven't heard of any "turn wall" when talking about Plato, it would always be nada mas a cave, light and shadows and people chained there (por cierto, I find his theory quite interesting and worth chewing over )

Well, there is these chained persons, a fire, an half wall between the fire and the persons, and they cannot see neither the wall nor the fire, there are people passing between that half wall and the fire, they are carrying some objects and the chained-- - culé, Jan 2, 2011

ones can only see the object the other carry, because of that wall. :) - culé, Jan 2, 2011

Answer 9

NO me sorprende culé, la frase no tiene sentido, ¿está bien copiada?

I've copied the whole thing.. :) - culé, Jan 2, 2011

Answer 10

Holas, mira: http://www.significadode.org/vez.htm

Entonces parece que es lo mismo que "por su parte" ¿no? But I am not sure whether that works in your sentence.