Where should hasta be placed

Question

I'm trying to say, "There are even electronic cigarettes that don't produce smoke." What I came up with is, Hasta hay los cigarrillos electrónicos que no produce humo.

I'm not sure of the correct word order. Where should "hasta" be placed in this sentence?

Answer 1

hmm... it could be the way you placed it, but without "los"...

hasta hay cigarrillos electrónicos que no producen humo... (I wouldn't sayt it ths way)

But it would be more common to say... incluso, or inclusive... to say what you mean...

"Incluso hay cigarrillos electrónicos que no producen humo"

Answer 2

There are even electronic cigarettes that don't produce smoke."

Hay incluso cigarrillos electrónicos que no producen humo.

Or Incluso hay cigarrillos electrónicos que no producen humo.

Now, in informal speech, especially in spoken language, in a certain context you could say:

Hasta hay cigarrillos electrónicos que no producen humo.

But it´s not the best Spanish language you could use.

Answer 3

Take the hasta and the los out of your sentence and it will be correct, hasta means until and doesn`t fit in with what you are saying, perhaps you could say Hay aun cigarillos electrónicas que no producen humo. Hay aun = there are even.

hasta can have the sentido of aun...see our dictionary where it is synonymous with incluso. - 0074b507, Dec 8, 2010

Thanks for that info Q. - kenwilliams, Dec 8, 2010