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My teacher say with espero we use the subjunctive but when we use a timeframe we use indicative.

She was unable to explain to me how we say:-

I hope that ( something happens) tomorrow.

The hope with a timeframe seemed to confuse her immensly.

So how do you hope in a specific timeframe in Spanish.

We have just spent two hours on this !!

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updated Nov 27, 2010
edited by Stig345
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HI Roger, no idea what she was talking about.

I hope we go to the cinema tomorrow.

Espero que mañana vayamos al cine.

Subjunctive is used so I don¡t know what she meant.

updated Nov 28, 2010
posted by 00494d19
She rambeled on about espero being a desire and we can't use a timefreame with a desire. - Stig345, Nov 21, 2010
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Can we address the question of not being able to use a timeframe with espero and the subjunctve,as espero is just a desire ?

Thanks.

updated Nov 23, 2010
posted by Stig345
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It would appear having spoken to native spanish speakers that my teacher is not correct on this one. - That was a waste of $12 !

updated Nov 23, 2010
posted by Stig345
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The future imperfect subjunctive of the verb ir is: fuere, fueres, fuere, fuéremos, fuereis, fueren. So it would be, "Espero que mañana fuéremos al cine." Please correct me if I am mistaken.

updated Nov 27, 2010
posted by Jesss
Future subjunctive is no longer used Jess - patch, Nov 21, 2010
You are mistaken, Jess. The future in subjunctive is not express with future tense, but with any of the other tenses. - lazarus1907, Nov 27, 2010
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Ok It is sorted out. She says that I said :_

Espero que voy a ir al ciné esta noche.

and you can't espero and future. I need to say espero ir a ciné

That is what all the confusion was about.

updated Nov 27, 2010
posted by Stig345
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Voy a aprender esperanto.

updated Nov 23, 2010
posted by Stig345
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She told me this sentence is incorrect.

Espero que Bob vaya a pasar su examen mañana.

It was the mañana being used with espero that caused the issue

But this was much more acceptable:-

yo quiero que Bob pase su examen mañana

The subtlty being the difference between espero, which is some sort of desire, and quiero which is more positive. Honestly. I have not idea.

I wish she spoke English !!

Espero que ella hable íngles !

updated Nov 23, 2010
edited by Stig345
posted by Stig345
inglés* - dewclaw, Nov 23, 2010
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Can we address the question of not being able to use a timeframe with espero and the subjunctve,as espero is just a desire ?

hmmm, I don't think we can roger.

So espero is a desire. And we cannot use a time frame with desires. Is that what the teacher is saying?

I know you are never on time, but I wish you would be/were on time tomorrow as it is important.

According to the teacher this sentence is incorrect, right? I wonder what she is talking about. big surprise

updated Nov 21, 2010
posted by 00494d19
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It is my understanding that there's no future subjunctive in modern Spanish. So when you want to say "I hope you come tomorrow", yo say either "Espero que vengas mañana" or "espero que vayas a venir mañana". Is that rilght?

updated Nov 21, 2010
posted by Bob-Dressler2
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Somebody from another forum with the same problem, and an answer that is not too clear to me:--

Originally Posted by drei_lengua I have noticed sentences like "I hope that we will go tomorrow." being translated as "Espero que vayamos mañana." How is this correct if "We will go tomorrow" is "Nosotros iremos mañana." instead of "Nosotros vamos mañana."? My point is that there is no future subjunctive in Spanish to take care of this like there is a past and a present subjunctive. The subjunctive revolves around uncertainty and what could be more uncertain than the future.

I understand your doubt, but here's the deal... Subjunctive tenses are a little weird. Grammarians often caution that in the subjunctive, "tense" is a more subtle notion than in the indicative. That's because, most of the time, when we use that mood, we're talking about events which haven't actually happened, or may not actually happen. So, pinpointing them in time is a bit subjective.

In particular, when you use the present subjunctive, you're usually talking about something which is not factual, now, but might be. Now think about it: if it might be factual now, then perhaps it will become factual in the future. So, in a way, the idea of the present subjunctive already allows for a future realization of the event.

Note also that the sentence you wrote already contains the word "tomorrow", which indicates that you're talking about the future. It would be a bit redundant to conjugate the verb in a special tense just because you're talking about tomorrow, when you're already saying that.

updated Nov 21, 2010
posted by Stig345