Soy humillado

Question

I answered a question about double past participles a while ago... And I was asked if I'd say "soy humillado"...well...

After giving the phrase "soy humillado" some though I realized it can be used as the Presente indicativo pasivo de humillar.

As in "soy humillado constantemente"

This of course is a conjugation of the verb humillar, and ser loses the sense of setting the esence of the adjective, as estar would settle the condition.

Ok, so here is the question... I was wondering which verbs can be used in this form... and there has to be a rule...

soy obligado... I'm obligated (it's ok)

but in some instances it just can't be formed this way..

soy dicho... (wrong) soy pensado (wrong)

I think it might have something to do with the verb being tangible, or with it being a verb that you can force some other person to be... but I'm just wondering...

I'd like to hear your opinions...

Answer 1

I think the difference is that humiliado is being used as an adjective, while dicho and pensado just don't make sense as adjectives.

Answer 2

This of course is a conjugation of the verb humillar, and ser loses the sense of setting the esence of the adjective, as estar would settle the condition.

as far as I know, ´soy humillado´ is a copulative verb followed by an adjective (as a complement). it´s not a passive voice for humillar, so your search of a rule would be ill-fated by a wrong initial assumption.

Answer 3

I guess I got confused by the fact that the past participle is supposed to make the verb an adjective

as a example if you say it in past tense, in future tense and impersonal it makes sense...

El libro fue pensado para los niños El poema fue dicho por un orador excelente Mi ausencia será llorada

It's true, they have to make sense as adjectives to be used this way...

Answer 4

Hace unos momentos respondí una pregunta sobre el uso doble de los participios pasados, y me preguntaron si diría "soy humillado". Después de darle vueltas por algo de tiempo me dí cuenta que se puede utilizar como el presente indicativo de humillar.

Por ejemplo en: Soy humillado constantemente

Es cierto, es una conjugación del verbo humillar y el verbo ser pierde el sentido de establecer la esencia en el uso con un adjetivo, del mismo modo que estar establece como una condición del momento. Me preguntaba como se puede utilizar esta forma, tiene que haber una regla.

Soy obligado

Porque en algunos casos no se puede formar

Soy dicho, soy pensado

Creo que tiene que ver con que el verbo sea algo tangible, o con la posibilidad de que se pueda forzar a hacer el verbo a alguien.

Me gustaría oír sus opiniones.