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Hola a todos

I in this sentence I am trying to explain to a friend why I am late for our date to see a movie. A series of events have gone wrong and now I am about to relate the major reason for my delay.

I need help with the grammar please. I am using the perfecto de indicativo tense because the event has happened to me before I met up with my friend.

"Espera! Y luego..... me he quedado atrapar en un ascensor y no podría salir"

Gracias.

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updated Oct 8, 2010
posted by 009a6649
*atrapada (not the infinitive, but the participle form) - LoaEtayo, Oct 7, 2010
I'm a bit confused because two conjugated verbs following each other is not possible. - 009a6649, Oct 7, 2010

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Actually, if you are narrating something that has happened very recently, the use of present perfect is more than justified. If you were talking about something that happened hours ago, or yesterday, then you should use preterite instead: "me quedé atrapada". The only tense that is wrong in your original sentence is the conditional, "podría", which should be imperfect tense: "podía".

"Y luego..... me he quedado atrapada en un ascensor y no podía salir"

This sounds perfect in Spanish (no pun intended).

updated Oct 7, 2010
edited by bill1111
posted by bill1111
It doesn't have to be recent, Bill. It just has to be relevant in the present moment. "Las pirámides han perdido el color original" is something that happened many centuries ago, but the statement is relevant to us now, for we are experiencing it. - lazarus1907, Oct 7, 2010
Yes, you are absolutely right, but considering the original sentence I felt it was appropriate to explain only the basic difference between both tenses, rather than a comprehensive explanation that I probably couldn't provide anyway. - bill1111, Oct 7, 2010
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I'm a bit confused because two conjugated verbs following each other is not possible.

Me he quedado atrapar/atrapada

Atrapada is not a conjugated verb, it is a past participle being used as an adjective.

haber is an auxiliary verb and the only verb conjugated.

quedado (past participle) [remained/been] is a linking verb in this sentence.


present perfect Spanish

Despite its name, the present perfect tense in Spanish (and English as well) is used to refer to events that happened in the past. Its use in Spanish can be tricky, however, because its usage varies with region and it sometimes is used in slightly different ways than it is in English.

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You should be aware, however, that the Spanish present perfect tense should not always be thought of as the equivalent of the English present perfect tense. In many regions, it can be used as the equivalent of the English simple past tense. Sometimes the context will make this clear:

  • Ha llegado hace un rato. She arrived a little bit ago.
  • Cuando lo he visto no he podido creerlo. When I saw it I couldn't believe it.
  • Leo la carta que me han escrito esta mañana. I am reading the letter they wrote to me this morning.

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But even where the context doesn't dictate so, the present perfect can be the equivalent of the English preterite, also known as the simple past. This is especially true for events that occurred very recently. You're also more likely to hear the present perfect used in this way in Spain than in most of Latin America, where the preterite may be preferred (e.g., llegó hace un rato).

In other words, the pretérito perfecto compuesto (compound preterite) is morphologically the same as the English Present Perfect tense, but it is not used in the same manner, so English speakers should not use their knowledge of the Present Perfect tense to explain the use of the pretérito perfecto compuesto. (and it doesn't help that verb tables that translate tense titles list it as Present Perfect making one think that it is identical to the English Present Perfect tense.).

updated Oct 7, 2010
edited by 0074b507
posted by 0074b507
"Llegó hace un rato" is the way any person in Spain would say it. - lazarus1907, Oct 7, 2010
Gracias! - 009a6649, Oct 7, 2010
By the way, this tense is one of the most similar ones between Spanish and (British) English. - lazarus1907, Oct 7, 2010
hmm that's interesting Q, thanx. I had no idea that it could be used as the equivalent of the preterite. I'll try to stop looking at it through the eyes of English grammar lol :) - Kiwi-Girl, Oct 7, 2010
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The present perfect (pretérito perfecto) is used for past actions which are more relevant to how they affect us in the present moment, or when they continue in the present moment (the key term is present!) If you say "...me he quedado atrapado en un ascensor", it means you are still stuck while you utter those words.

By the way, it must be "quedado atrapado".

updated Oct 7, 2010
edited by lazarus1907
posted by lazarus1907
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EDIT: I'll leave this up incase others have been looking at the Spanish present perfect like I have - through the eyes of English grammar.

But as pointed out it can be used as the equivalent of the preterite as long as it is relevant to the present moment.

Original post (incorrect) I might be missing something but the perfect tense is equivalent to our "have" etc. Is there some reason why you wanted to use this "I have become trapped" rather than just using the preterite tense "I got stuck ..."?

updated Oct 8, 2010
edited by Kiwi-Girl
posted by Kiwi-Girl
Thanks, yes I see your point. - 009a6649, Oct 7, 2010
so would i use 'me quedé atrapar'? - 009a6649, Oct 7, 2010
do you want to say I became trapped (then yes) or I was trapped (then use the imperfect) - Kiwi-Girl, Oct 7, 2010
Many thanks. - 009a6649, Oct 7, 2010
'me quedé atrapada' - samdie, Oct 7, 2010
sorry to put you wrong Jayleebee but at least we got some good help in response and hopefully both have it a little clearer now :) Cheers for the question :) - Kiwi-Girl, Oct 7, 2010
Yes I agree and many thanks to all for taking the time to contribute. - 009a6649, Oct 8, 2010
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"y entonces me atrapó el ascensory no podía salir....etc" and then the elevator trapped me and I couldn't get out....

Atorar=get stuck as well but I'm not sure how to make that sound best, as in I got stuck in the elevator. Maybe "Me encontré atorada en el ascensor" Maybe a native can clear this up?

updated Oct 7, 2010
posted by Ashlita
None of these work for different reasons. "y entonces me atrapó el ascensor" suggests that the elevator is alive and actively trapped you. "Atorar" on the other side, means "to get stuck" or "to block up", so unless you are incredibly fat it doesn't work. - bill1111, Oct 7, 2010
So the only solution in that example is the me quede atrapada thing? Thanks for the answer. - Ashlita, Oct 7, 2010