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When do you use hay, estar, and ser?

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When do you use hay, estar, and ser? (Hay vs. Estar and Estar vs. Ser) These three really confuse me, and I constantly get them mixed up. Is there a rule or trick to remember when to use these? I know the DOCTOR and PLACE thing, but when hay and estar come up when I try to make a sentence, I always get them wrong. Help!!

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updated Nov 21, 2011
edited by --Mariana--
posted by Saphire
qfreed, this would be a good time to help... XP - Saphire, Sep 26, 2010
Thank you. It's always nice to be thought of. - 0074b507, Sep 26, 2010

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impersonal haber

Hay (present tense, impersonal Haber) means there is, there are. It denotes existence; not location.

Hay tres libros. (There are three books. It says nothing about where they are located; just that they exist)

Hay tres libros encima de la mesa.

There are three books on top of the desk. (the prepositional phrase encima de la mesa serves as an adverbial phrase telling you where or the location of the books; not the verb hay.)

Los tres libros están encima de la mesa.

La ciudad de Boston está en el estado de Massachusettes.

España está en el oeste de Europa.

The verb estar is used to denote the location (not their existence) of physical objects including geographical objects. (non-physical objects like the party, the meeting, the reunion, use Ser for denoting the location)

Hay una reunión esta tarde. (existence)

La reunión es en la oficina del Señor Smith. (location).

Ser/estar with location

If it helps you to remember, then, estar (3rd person, it) is translated as is or are, but hay is always there is or there are; never just is or are.

updated Nov 21, 2011
edited by 0074b507
posted by 0074b507
I like the explanaion for "Hay" as existence. Gracias. - bandit51jd, Sep 26, 2010
You're the best! Thanks so much ^_^ - Saphire, Sep 27, 2010
Even i understood that , thank you sir. - ray76, Nov 17, 2010
Very good explanation! - Ybien, Nov 17, 2010
I like the explanation, thanks! - michelleang, Nov 21, 2011
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When do you use hay, estar, and ser?

The closest to "ser" in Korean is ??: a copulative verb.

On the other hand, ?? is sometimes "estar", sometimes "hay", sometimes "tener", but there is a similar problem when translating into English anyway. If something can be identified or it has been introduced in the conversation, it is "estar"; if it is not identified, it is probably "hay", and if it belongs to someone, it is "tener".

P.D. All that, assuming that those verbs are as close as I think they are to their Japanese counterparts da and aru.

R: En españa hay muchos tipos de colegios. (same) Están los colegios públicos, que son (son=understood too) los colegios de estado. y ta l y cual...

Can someone please explain this están, because in English I would still be saying 'There are'?

Se my explanation above: when you say "hay", they have not been put into context. After that, you continue with "estar" to provide more information about the same items. You could, of course, assume that the other person still does not have enough information to identify them, and say "Hay colegios públicos y hay ...bla bla bla".

updated Jan 10, 2011
edited by lazarus1907
posted by lazarus1907
Thank you so much, Lazarus, I was thinking about asking if it would still have been possible to write 'hay colegios públicos blah blah'. :) - galsally, Nov 18, 2010
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R: En españa hay muchos tipos de colegios. (same) Están los colegios públicos, que son (son=understood too) los colegios de estado. y ta l y cual...

Can someone please explain this están, because in English I would still be saying 'There are'?

Muchas gracias. Estoy confundida. :/

definite articles are usually preceded by estar

updated Nov 18, 2010
posted by lorenzo9
Thanks Lorenzo - great article. - pesta, Nov 17, 2010
That's helpful thanks Lorenzo, I think I understand, but I can see I'll still be good at making mistakes around these verbs for some time. - galsally, Nov 18, 2010
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I'd like to ask a bit more about this - I thought I understood it, and Gfreed's explanation makes perfect sense.

However....a friend lent me her GCSE distance learning course to work through, essentially it's revision for me because I've already covered the grammar.

This has got me all confused about hay/estar again, see what you make of this....

P: ¿Qué tipos de colegios hay en españa? (Great, I would expect 'hay')

R: En españa hay muchos tipos de colegios. (same) Están los colegios públicos, que son (son=understood too) los colegios de estado. y ta l y cual...

Can someone please explain this están, because in English I would still be saying 'There are'?

Muchas gracias. Estoy confundida. :/

updated Nov 17, 2010
posted by galsally