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Mexico Independence Day Celebration

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EridHlDsHtw

Violent Insurgent Outbreak in Rural Mexico.

Authentic video filmed last week in the central plaza of a small town in the mountains of Guerrero. Armed with improvised weapons, enraged people fall upon the hated tormentors with an amazing display of violence. This video is like nothing you have ever seen. The Mexican mob with its dangerous behavior, denounces bad government in a concerted expression of the popular will to be independent. A terrible massacre was nearly averted.

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updated Sep 27, 2010
edited by Martin-Rizzi
posted by Martin-Rizzi
"nearly averted" or "narrowly averted"? They mean quite different things. - samdie, Sep 22, 2010
"nearly averted" since a massacre of sorts does take place at the end - i suggested to the village comisario that they sentence and execute the gachupines. like the do in Huiztac - Martin-Rizzi, Sep 22, 2010

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This appears to be a reinactment of the fight for Mexican Independence. It is the Bicentennial, and I think that this has to do with this. If you notice, the spectators do not seem to be in fear and there are many people on the sidelines taking photographs. There's no way that the mothers would just be sitting around there watching it with their small children. If the cannon was real the people would have scattered.

The problems in Mexico are real and they are serious, especially in border towns like Ciudad Juarez, but this is not a reflection of it.

updated Sep 22, 2010
posted by Echoline
Just wondering why anyone would sit there and let their children watch such nonsense! - Brynleigh, Sep 21, 2010
Ever see a reenactment of the Revolutionary or Civil Wars? - KevinB, Sep 21, 2010
thos children ought to be watching television - Martin-Rizzi, Sep 21, 2010
As I mentioned, Violence breeds violence. - Brynleigh, Sep 22, 2010
doesn't violence against one's colonial master have redeeming patriotic quality, whereas violence coming from the North onto the South is irredemably deplorable? - Martin-Rizzi, Sep 22, 2010
Violence by any other name is still violence! - Brynleigh, Sep 22, 2010
There is violence, and there is violence. Do you want to take the violence out of Mexico? Good luck. - Martin-Rizzi, Sep 22, 2010
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I noticed the "combatants" had shields made of cardboard, some of them had hats from McDonald's with feathers in them, and some of them were sipping from beer bottles. The "witnesses" brought lawn chairs and parasols. I could also hear fireworks, and that canon looks like it was built in someone's garage. And it was shot around the time of the bicentennial celebration.

When the fighting's for real the weapons of choice are not rocks, they're AK's and M16's, with a few Barrets and RPG's thrown in for good measure, and the bystanders don't sit in lawn chairs to watch.

updated Sep 22, 2010
posted by KevinB
Yes, Kevin. My point exactly. - Echoline, Sep 21, 2010
I think I even saw some eggs being thrown. - canicos, Sep 21, 2010
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Does any one know what is actually going on in this video? It seems to be a bi-centennial celebration of some sort. I don't see what looks real violence. It looks more like a really rough street game.

updated Sep 22, 2010
posted by canicos
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¡Qué indignidad!

Pobre México

updated Sep 22, 2010
posted by 005faa61
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I have been thinking about some comments to the effect

that such an expression of popular violence were deplorable;

Guerrero has always been a wild place. Guerrero means warrior.

The primary national heroes are from Guerrero, Iguala is known as

the Cradle of Mexican nation and Iguala is the only city mentioned

in the Mexican National anthem. Other people inherited their freedom.

The Mexicans didn't inherit their freedom, or get it without a struggle.

They had to fight for their independence and to get economic justice,

becasue the Spanish conquerors were NOT giving it to them for free!

Many Mexican villages stage spontaneous simulations on 16 sept;

these are created by the people themselves and are not the product

of mass-media induced opinions or fashions or commercial influences

http://handcrafted-ethnic-jewelry.com/videos-of-guerrero/huixtac-batalla-por-la-independendia-de-mexico

Battle for Mexican Independence Huiztac Guerrero

Take a look at how they do it in Huiztac - a village i can see from my terrace -

In the Mexican war of Independence, there were seventeen men killed defending

the town and their memorial is prominent in the yard of the very ancient church.

On the question of violence. My study of history suggests that violence seldom

comes from the bottom of society up, and when it does, it is easily taken care of

by the authorities; and that such violence does relatively little damage to society.

When violence comes from the top down, as it usually does, the results are just

devastating; one might think that these dealers in violence were insensate devils!

The people have the right to celebrate their struggle to free themselves from chains

updated Sep 22, 2010
edited by Martin-Rizzi
posted by Martin-Rizzi
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Good video, Martin-Rizzi.

So many times we forget that many of the battles for independence throughout all the Americas were won by common people armed with not much more than whatever was at hand - rocks, pitchforks, hoes, etc., along with the occasional firearm which may or may not have fired accurately.

In a philosophical sense, the bicentennial celebration of Mexico is the story of the wars for independence throughout the Americas.

updated Sep 22, 2010
posted by mountaingirl123
I don't think many can forget violence no matter how simple the weapons. I strongly prefer the use of non violent civil disobedience to resist tyranny as emplified by Ghandi "Satyagraha" - Brynleigh, Sep 21, 2010
ghandi was a real man, not a sugar-coated saint, as he did say that, non-violence was the political path for those who simply did not have the balls, to sacrifice themselves to the fight for independence and justice - Martin-Rizzi, Sep 22, 2010
Martin-Rizzi- that remark is very offensive! - Brynleigh, Sep 22, 2010
I do not intend to comment to you any further. There are those who cannot see the forest for the trees! - Brynleigh, Sep 22, 2010
i am sorry you were offended by what mahatma ghandi has said in his writings - Martin-Rizzi, Sep 22, 2010
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Just got back from Mexico, It's ok. Just don't go to the bad places. wink

updated Sep 22, 2010
posted by simpevets
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We have similar things here in the US.

They call it baseball - (bench clearing brawls)

or football - (opposing teams try to maim their opponents)

or hockey - ( I went to a fight the other day and a hockey game broke out) tongue rolleye

updated Sep 22, 2010
posted by 00d7cd75
Actually, we do have a similar thing in the US...reinactments. People dress in period costume and simulate a historical American battle, most often from the Civil War or Revolutionary War. - Echoline, Sep 22, 2010
This is true but the reinactments are mostly preening and posturing - no violence. - 00d7cd75, Sep 22, 2010
My remarks were made as a joke. Nothing offensive intended. - 00d7cd75, Sep 22, 2010
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Is that for real or was it staged? I fail to see what it accomplishes. It looks as if the spectators knew in advance that this was going to occur. No one seems to be enjoying the performance though. Are they throwing stones at one another? I haven't seen that since I was in grade school. It is a poor example for the children watching. Violence breeds violence. Isn't it about time these adults grew up?

updated Sep 22, 2010
posted by Brynleigh