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Is "he turned teacher" the same as "he became a teacher"?

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updated Sep 26, 2010
edited by nila45
posted by nila45

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Is "he turned teacher" the same as "he became a teacher"?

I would not say that it would never be said this way (turned teacher); however, such an expression would be very uncommon, informal and probably only be used in extremely limited situations.

The only example that I can think of would be if it were being used in a figurative sense such as if the word were meant to signify something along the lines of "acted like" or "played the part of."

? Mrs. Eck had stepped out of the classroom for a minute, and we were all horsing around when that nerd, Johnny, turned teacher on us and tried to get us all to sit down quietly and behave.
? Mrs. Eck had stepped out of the classroom for a minute, and we were all horsing around when that nerd, Johnny, became a teacher on us and tried to get us all to sit down quietly and behave.

? We were smoking in the bathroom when he tried to turn teacher on us all of a sudden and tell us that what we were doing was wrong.
? We were smoking in the bathroom when he tried to become a teacher on us all of a sudden and tell us that what we were doing was wrong.

In both sets of examples above, the idea of teacher is used in a metaphorical sense (used as a comparison) and implies the characteristics of a killjoy or party-pooper. More specifically, it is used (in this context) to describe, in a pejorative fashion, a person who tries to take on an authoritarian role to which they are not suited/qualified and by doing so (or with the added consequence of), spoiling a good time.

In a literal sense and in other contexts, the expression "he turned teacher" seems awkward, and it would probably be best to be avoided in favor of "he became a teacher."

Note:

You could say the following (although there is still a subtle difference in meaning between the two):

?He turned out to be a great teacher.
?He became a great teacher.

updated Sep 26, 2010
posted by Izanoni1
I agree Izanoni :) - FELIZ77, Sep 21, 2010
Very well-explained. I had a lot of doubts because I am used to saying "he became a teacher" and then, "he turned a teacher" sounded strange, but, as it was in a grammar book, I needed to know the truth. - nila45, Sep 26, 2010
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No, He turned teacher by itself wouldn't be said at all in English.

J

updated Sep 21, 2010
posted by Jeremias
I find the phrase quite "sayable". e.g. "At the age of 30, he turned teacher ..." - samdie, Sep 21, 2010
Respectfully, I disagree. You could say "He turned into a teacher" but "He turned teacher is incorrect for a number of reasons. - Jeremias, Sep 21, 2010
Namely: No preposition, no article. It is most common, when referring to a profession, to use the verb become, "He became a teacher". - Jeremias, Sep 21, 2010
Samdie, I didn't mean to sound harsh, which I think I did. I do value your posts and comments. - Jeremias, Sep 21, 2010
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I emphatically disagree with all of the foregoing replies. The phrase is neither weird (not said) nor particularly colloquial. If anything, it is somewhat old-fashioned (perhaps, even, literary).

From the OED (usage 39, b. with n. compl. (most commonly without article). Freq. as pa. pple. modifying a n.

1596 Shakes. Merch. V. iii. i. 82 Vnlesse the diuell himselfe turne Iew. 1660 Fuller Mixt Contempl. (1841) 172 The remedy turned the malady of the land. 1758 S. Hayward Serm. xvii. 531 A mother must turn monster if she does not love her babe. 1853 Lytton My Novel v. ix, Did not you turn..a common stage-player, sir? 1879 Dowden Southey vi. 178 Under such strokes a courageous heart may turn coward. 1879 W. Minto Defoe x. 170 He had seen Whig turn Tory and Tory turn Whig. 1945, etc. [see poacher1 1 b]. 1964 Eng. Studies XLV. 382 Their Scandinavian conquerors-turned-neighbors. 1973 E. Schumacher Small is Beautiful i. iii. 44 The economist-turned-econometrician is unwilling..to face the question. 1982 Times Lit. Suppl. 10 Sept. 968/3 Jerome’s father was a Nonconformist preacher, turned architect, turned mine-owner.

Of my own invention: Although raised in a Baptist household, he turned Catholic at the age of twenty-one.

His parents were staunch Republicans but, while in college, he turned Communist.

Despite being raised in a law-abiding household, he turned criminal at an early age.

Since his parents were, at best, semi-literate, it was surprising that he turned teacher.

updated Sep 26, 2010
posted by samdie
All good examples....it is interesting to note that all of your examples seem to use the word "turn" to highlight a contrast or to emphasize the degree of change. - Izanoni1, Sep 21, 2010
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I agree with both Jeremias and Matt.

"To turn" in this context is a very low and uneducated way to say "To turn into" or "To become." Only the most ignorant people would use this type of construction.

updated Sep 22, 2010
posted by 005faa61
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In English we would usually say: He became a teacher = llegó a ser un maestro

We would not use the expression 'he turned' in this kind of Context, Nila

We would use he turned in these kind of examples;

  1. He turned the corner and realized that he was back where he had started.

  2. She had just turned 30 that year (had her 30th Birthday)

  3. When the spell broke the frog turned back into a prince.

    4 The traitor turned pale and tried to escape when he realized he had been discovered

I hope this helps grin3.

updated Sep 21, 2010
edited by FELIZ77
posted by FELIZ77
Sorry the numbers didn't come out properly I can count really lol :) - FELIZ77, Sep 21, 2010
By no means "always". I find the phrase quite acceptable (though not especially colloquial). - samdie, Sep 21, 2010
Okay Thank you very much for your constructive comment , Samdie - FELIZ77, Sep 21, 2010
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¡Hola!, Nila:

 

A couple of examples of the use of the word "turn" came into my mind as I read your question. But, they are both out of the ordinary, in a way. Consider these two examples:

If my sister came upon a serpent on a forest trail, it would frighten her very badly. In that case I might say of her, "If Jan saw a snake in her path, I think she would turn tail and run the other way." However notice that this suggests a reversal of a direction of travel and the two words "turn tail" might be considered a limited use figure of speech.

Another example might involve a government spy who in a turncoat way gives information or acts for a foreign (hostile) government or agency. Such a person might be said to "turn rogue". But, here again, there is an about face or directional change of a sort.

Otherwise, I tend to agree with Jeremias, MattM and JulianChivas that when an individual sets out on a course and achieves their goal, as in learning the art of teaching, they are said to have "become" a teacher. In the absence of a directional change, "turn" would not be used.

 

Muchos saludos/Best regards,

Moe

updated Sep 21, 2010
posted by Moe
Moe, you just reminded me of one way to say "turn" alone and it is quite acceptable ie: To turn black and blue....Volverse morado - 005faa61, Sep 21, 2010
Moe, your exmples inspired my 4th example lol :) - FELIZ77, Sep 21, 2010
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convertir en ingles sería más como ....(turned into) something.

convert, transform

Convirtió al príncipe en rana. She turned the prince into a frog. Algo inmediato.

To become something, para hacerse algo lleva tiempo, gradual y estaría mejor en este contexto. Hacerse mejor. To grow old.

O algo en el pasado. Se hizo mi maestro. He became my teacher.

updated Sep 21, 2010
edited by MattM
posted by MattM
I'm not sure, I would play down the importance of time here. "become" can be used for things that happen instantly, such as in "after that day he became known as nazi killer". "turn into" seems to be related to changing the essence of something - bill1111, Sep 21, 2010
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it is interesting to note that all of your examples seem to use the word "turn" to highlight a contrast or to emphasize the degree of change

No argument there. Only that the "change of direction" can refer to "change of opinion" / "change of lifestyle", both of which are more metaphorical than literal.

updated Sep 26, 2010
posted by samdie
Thank you, Samdie - nila45, Sep 26, 2010