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G A M E - Preterite vs Imperfect

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Objective: practice in the use of the past tenses, preterite & imperfect

The rules:-----------------------------

  1. translate the English sentence given by the person above into Spanish using the correct preterite or imperfect verb conjugations

make sure you click on N E W E S T before you begin

Then

  1. state whether you used the preterite or the imperfect and give a short explanation as to why you used it

  • and finally
  1. provide a new sentence in English which includes a verb used in the past

for the next person to translate.

Have fun! ¡Diviértanse!

A suggestion: please keep your sentences simple. This is tricky stuff, so let's concentrate on the tenses, ok? - Gekko.

PS: here's a great link showing how the preterite is for action in the past whereas the imperfect is an ongoing condition in the past: Imperfecto vs Preterito and another that I've put together that may be of some use too, Pret vs Imp.

A big thanks to Gekko who 'was' kindly correcting this thread - Gekko if you have a mo' please post a thread below introducing yourself or post empty thread for me to introduce you, thus allowing the grateful participants to vote for all your hard and much appreciated work here wink

Edit - Sadly Gekko doesn't come round much anymore :( we'd love it if he did but in the meantime any corrections or suggestions are gratefully accepted and if someone would like to volunteer to help with moderation of this game, that'd be awesome, please just let us know so we can welcome you officially to the possie (as us antipodeans say (ie. position))

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updated Oct 25, 2014
edited by Kiwi-Girl
posted by Kiwi-Girl
Maria Claire, this is a great idea! I wish you lots of takers - 005faa61, Aug 10, 2010
Muchisimas gracias :) thanx for joining in! - Kiwi-Girl, Aug 10, 2010
So many views and so few posts? Come on guys just have a go - this is for learning and we're all here to help and be helped so have a crack :) - Kiwi-Girl, Aug 11, 2010
Great idea Marie-Claire :) - --Jen--, Aug 11, 2010
What a "perfect" game!!! - --Mariana--, Aug 11, 2010
Muchisimas gracias a Maria, necesito mucha practica en el preterito/el imperfecto! - schemmn, Aug 11, 2010
Why I have seen this before my quiz last night?? Oh, well final exam is tomorrow and it will be on that, too! Muchas gracias! - chica_rica, Aug 11, 2010
Great game Maria!! I think I fixed all my mistakes! Thanks to Gekko for all his help. :) - Jason7R, Aug 11, 2010
Ok peeps, I don't know about you all but I feel like my understanding of the preterite and imperfect has improved out of sight in the just the last couple of days and I'd love to do similar threads with other things - por vs para, present vs subjunctive - Kiwi-Girl, Aug 11, 2010
etc, so I'm begging for moderators, please, pretty please. If out of the goodness of your heart you would consider volunteering please PM me, I know many of us would be sooooo grateful :) - Kiwi-Girl, Aug 11, 2010
Wonderful game MC and thanks to Gekkosan for all his help!!! - Izanoni1, Aug 18, 2010
I know, he's the bomb isn't he lol :) but don't tell him it'll probably go to his head je je Glad you're enjoying the game :) I've learnt heaps so far! - Kiwi-Girl, Aug 18, 2010
Well done Maria, I never thought you'd get 100 answers for this. - fontanero, Aug 19, 2010
I think we all need so much help with it - have you joined in yet? Come on, give it a go, we're all getting heaps wrong, it's the best way to learn so don't be shy :) - Kiwi-Girl, Aug 19, 2010
Thank you Marie for you encouragement and to Gekkosan for patiently answering all my questions - sanlee, Aug 21, 2010
You're welcome :) My thanx too to Gekko, he's been very patient with us all and very, very helpful :) - Kiwi-Girl, Aug 25, 2010
wonderful game, marie, thanks gekko too:) - 00494d19, Sep 1, 2010
Thanx Heidita,getting the idea was pretty easy but thanks to Gekko who's doing most of the hard work ;) - Kiwi-Girl, Sep 2, 2010
A great idea, I've only discovered it a day or two ago.. Good one! - annierats, Jan 12, 2012

388 Answers

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Corrected sentence: Thanks Gekkosan!

Casi nunca he visto a mi amigo enfadarse, pero estaba muy disgustado cuando su coche nuevo fue dañado ayer.

Given Sentence:

I almost never saw my friend get angry, but when his new car was damaged yesterday he was really upset.

Casi nunca vi a mi amiga enfadarse pero cuando su coche nuevo sufrió dañado ayer estaba muy disgustado.

I used preterite for vi because if she saw him this way, it is over and done. I used preterit for the car getting damaged because that is a completed past action and the imperfect for feelings.

New Sentence:

My friend called and wanted me to go to Tennessee with her, but I can't because I couldn't leave my family for a week.

updated Feb 6, 2012
edited by sanlee
posted by sanlee
Ok, maybe this sentence isn't quite as simple as it seem. We have a problem here: "I almost never saw" looks an awful lot like preterite - but we're told that our friend was still around getting upsept yeterday. If we say "casi nunca vi", we're implying - Gekkosan, Feb 5, 2012
that our friend might not be around anymore. In Spanish we need to say: "casi nunca he visto", and this would agree nicely with the imperfect of the second part. - Gekkosan, Feb 5, 2012
Then, we need gender agreement. If we choose "amiga", then it's "disgustadA". But the orignal says "he". Finally, we need a better option for "was damaged". Sufrió dañado does not work. - Gekkosan, Feb 5, 2012
Casi nunca he visto mi amigo enfandarse pero cuando su coche nuevo estuvo dañado ayer estababa muy disgusto - sanlee, Feb 5, 2012
Better. Still some details: "Casi nunca he visto a mi amigo enfadarse, pero estaba muy disgustado cuando su coche nuevo fue dañado ayer." - Gekkosan, Feb 6, 2012
Oh boy, another swith-er-oo with the words Thanks, Gekko - sanlee, Feb 6, 2012
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Given-When I was a child, I spoke and reasoned as a child.

Translated- Cuando era niño hablé y razoné como sea niño.

Corrected version: Cuando era niño hablaba y ranzonaba como niño.

Reason - Ser in imperfect cuz it sets the scene. Hablar and razonar in preterit because the time period in which they occur has a definite beginning and end... At least that's what I thought, but apparently even when it's known in which period the habit took place we still requiree imperfects. so it's 3 imperfects in one sentence.

New - Yesterday was one of those days where everything went wrong.

updated Feb 6, 2012
edited by S1r_Wakka
posted by S1r_Wakka
I can't remeber exactly when I started or finished being a child...I would have gone for imperfect, but I may be wrong. - annierats, Feb 4, 2012
1 Corinthians 13:11 - Leé esa paseje para la boda de mi hermana! - Mimi_88, Feb 4, 2012
@annie I think you provided the argumentation about *ser*. The childish behavior is fenced in by the childhood, therefore I believe the preterit is correct for *hablar*. - S1r_Wakka, Feb 4, 2012
I'm confused now. They could also be 3 actions occuring at the same time in which case they should all be imperfects. Anybody help? - S1r_Wakka, Feb 4, 2012
I would have said : Cuando era niño, hablaba y trataba a razonar como un niño. However, we need help, that's clear. - annierats, Feb 5, 2012
You're close, Annie: Cuando era niño, hablaba y razonaba como niño. This is an ongoing action taking place in the past. It did not happen once; it was my habitual behavior all through my childhood. - Gekkosan, Feb 5, 2012
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Given: The two boys met on the internet when they were in junior high and later set up a successful computer company. Last Saturday, Vincent was the best man at Marco's wedding.

Attempt: Los dos chicos se conocieron cuando estaban en la escuela secundaria y después comienzaron una empresa de computación. El sabado pasado, Vincent fue padrino en el budo de Marco.

Corrected version: Los dos chicos conocieron cuando estaban en la escuela secundaria y después comenzaron una empresa de computadores. El sábado pasado, Vincent fue padrino en la boda de Marco.

Reasons: The 3 preterits are all single events. Estar in the 1st sentence sets the scene for the meeting and is thus in the imperfect.

New: By the time they had finished their homework it was already midnight.

updated Feb 6, 2012
edited by S1r_Wakka
posted by S1r_Wakka
Not bad at all, Wakka. For "conocieron" you need the reflexive - otherwise we don't know who they met. Check your spelling and accents for comenzar and saturday. "Budo" is a Japanese marial art. You need a similar -but different- word for wedding. :-) - Gekkosan, Feb 3, 2012
Los dos chicos *SE* conocieron en la secundaria, y después comenzaron una empresa de computación.!" The second part is fine. - Gekkosan, Feb 5, 2012
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Given sentence:

She tried her best to learn it but her brain stubbornly refused to comply.

Translation:

Hacía lo posible para aprenderlo pero el cerebro tercamente se negaba/ se negó a cumplir

Imperfecto : mental actions

New sentence:

I almost never saw my friend get angry, but when his new car was damaged yesterday he was really upset..

updated Feb 5, 2012
edited by Castor77
posted by Castor77
This *could* go in the imperfect, but my impression from reading the English original is that she tried, but gave up, i.e - she's not trying anymore. If so, this needs to go in the preterite. "*SE* negaba / *se* negó. - Gekkosan, Feb 5, 2012
Quite right. Thanks. - Castor77, Feb 5, 2012
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Given: My Mom always went to the same hairdresser, but yesterday he was sick, so she went to a new one and she was not happy with her hairdo.

Translation: Mi madre siempre iba al mismo peluquero, pero ayer estuve enfermo. Así que fue a uno nuevo, y no estaba contenta con su peinado.

Reason: Imperfect "ir" for the habitual past action of going, preterite "estar" for him being sick as it was specified that it was yesterday, preterite "ir" because she went to the new one once, imperfect "estar" because I read this as she was and will continue to be unhappy (at least until she gets it fixed by her regular hairdresser).

Phew! There was a lot in there!

New: She tried her best to learn it but her brain stubbornly refused to comply.

updated Feb 5, 2012
edited by hollyjollyberry
posted by hollyjollyberry
Not bad. The tenses are good. Tweaking it a bit: Mi madre siempre iba al mismo peluquero, pero ayer estaba enfermo. Así que fue a *uno nuevo*, y no estaba contenta con su peinado". - Gekkosan, Feb 5, 2012
Thanks, Gekko. :) - hollyjollyberry, Feb 5, 2012
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Given: Yesterday was one of those days where everything went wrong.

My translation: Ayer era uno de aquellos días cuando todo me salió mal

Reasoning: salió preterite because the action happened...the day is over

New sentence: When my dog was young he had a limp

updated Feb 5, 2012
posted by vic5x5
Why is *era* imperfect? - S1r_Wakka, Feb 4, 2012
I think it should be ' fue'. - annierats, Feb 4, 2012
Correct, Annie: Ayer fue. - Gekkosan, Feb 5, 2012
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Given-The boys hardly slept that night, they were so overexcited about their adventure.

Translated- Los chicos casi no dormí ese noche ellos eran tan de por arriba emocioné sobre sus aventura.

Correction: Los chicos casi no dormían esa noche porque ellos eran tan sobreexcitado sobre sus aventura.

Reason - Used preterite because it was "that" night so action was completed.

New - When I was a child, I spoke and reasoned as a child.

updated Feb 5, 2012
edited by kdrinning
posted by kdrinning
Ah... That was a brave attempt, but we need to work on that translation; it's much too literal. You need the third person plural for that "dormir". I suggest you use the online dictionary to find the correct translation for "overexcited". Please post your - Gekkosan, Feb 3, 2012
corrected attempt an an edit to your post. Thanks! - Gekkosan, Feb 3, 2012
i corrected what you pointed out, but am I still being too literal? What exactly does that mean? Please give an example. Thanks for all your help! - kdrinning, Feb 4, 2012
Your correction is much better. What do I mean by being literal? Let me give you an example. Let's take the following Spanish slang sentence: - Gekkosan, Feb 5, 2012
"Anoche vinieron, se comieron todos los pasapalos, y amancecieron cayéndose a palos". - Gekkosan, Feb 5, 2012
A literal translation would be: Last night they came, they aate all the pass-sticks, and they dawned falling to sticks". Does it make sense? Not really. So we need to interpret into natural equivalent language. - Gekkosan, Feb 5, 2012
"Last night they came, ate all the snack, and drank heavily until dawn." Makes more sense, yes? - Gekkosan, Feb 5, 2012
So what we went as the final product here is: Los chicos casi no *durmieron* esa noche, porque estaban tan sobreexitados por su aventura. - Gekkosan, Feb 5, 2012
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Cuándo terminaron sus deberes, ya sería la medianoche

I've used preterite because they finished their homework...done dusted

updated Feb 5, 2012
posted by vic5x5
Hello Vic, welcome to the game.For future reference, the way the game works is, you click on the "newest" tab, and anwer the last question posted. Annie had already answered this question. Please look at her post for corrections. - Gekkosan, Feb 3, 2012
Also, you should post your New Sentence below your reply. Thanks! - Gekkosan, Feb 3, 2012
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Cúando terminaron sus deberes, ya era la medianoche.

I've used preterite because they have finished the action of their homework.

My question:

I had been in Brighton for 4 weeks before the sun shone

updated Feb 4, 2012
posted by vic5x5
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Second correction:

Ya había llamado al mesero para pagar (por) las bebidas, cuando se dio cuenta de que le habían robado (los bolsillos).Gekkosan

Corrected sentence: Thanks Gekkosan!

Ya había llamado al mesero para pagar por las bebidas cuando se dío cuenta que le habían robado los bolsillos.

Given sentence:

She had already called the waiter to pay for the drinks when she realised that her pockets had been picked.

Ya había llamado el mesero a pagar para las bebidas cuando dio cuenta que sus bolsillos había estado hurtado.

Reasons The past perfect with the imperfect of haber is used to describe an action that happened before another action.había llamado (First she called the waiter) Darse cuenta = to realize always uses the preterit Había estado hurtado = past perfect with imperfect of haber and gerund of estar for been. Can you have two gerunds together?

New Sentence; She always wore gloves when she was cold, but today she forgot to wear them.

updated Feb 3, 2012
edited by sanlee
posted by sanlee
"al mesero para pagar por" SE dió cuenta de que.... le habían robado los bolsillos. - Gekkosan, Feb 2, 2012
This was a really hard sentence. Let's see. Ya había llamado al mesero para pagar por las bebidas cuando se dío cuenta que sus bolsillos le habían robado los bolsillos. - sanlee, Feb 2, 2012
Thanks so much Gekkosan! - sanlee, Feb 2, 2012
This sentence is particularly challenging, because in Spanish is not all that common to talk about "Picking pockets". We talk about robart, hurtar and rateros (pickpockets), but we don't usually specify that the pockets were picked, if you follow my me. - Gekkosan, Feb 3, 2012
You need to pay particular attention to your "Por" and "para" - I see that those are still confusing for you. - Gekkosan, Feb 3, 2012
The way I would translate the original sentence would be something like: Ya había llamado al mesero para pagar (por) las bebidas, cuando se dio cuenta de que le habían robado (los bolsillos). Words in parentheses are optional. - Gekkosan, Feb 3, 2012
Yes, It's still confusing. And thank you so much, Geckkosan! - sanlee, Feb 3, 2012
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Given: I really used to love when my mother cooked lunch for me because I didn't have to do any work.

Attempt: Me gustaba muchísimo cuando mi madre me cocinaba las comidas porque no tenía que auydarla./

2nd attempt: De verdad amaba cuando mi mamá me preparaba el almuerzo porque no tenía/ había que hacer ningún trabajo. ( I much prefer gustar to amar here, but I'm trying hard to do a literal translation this time) .

3rd attemt: De verdad me gustaba cuando mamá me prebaparaba los almuerzos porque no yo no hacía ningun trabajo.

Reasoning: This state of affairs went on over aprolonged, undefined period: imperfect. Possiblly 'cuando' indicateds subjunctive but I just hope this is a plain statement .

New: I waited for a long, long time for the parcel but it never arrived.

updated Feb 3, 2012
edited by annierats
posted by annierats
Cheeky girl, Annie. You love making these liberal interpretations, so that you don't have to deal with "complicated" choices, huh? :-) That's fine as long as you can get away with it. In this case it sort of works (we get the gist), but you changed the - Gekkosan, Feb 2, 2012
...meaning a bit. Here's what you literally wrote in Spanish: "I liked it verry(sic) much when my mother cooked the meals for me,because I didn't have to help her". Same basic idea, but not quite the same, huh? - Gekkosan, Feb 2, 2012
The word is "muchísimo", not "muchissimo" - Gekkosan, Feb 2, 2012
Thank you Gekkosan. It's not that I like to do it that way, it is that I have to because I get so entangled. I will try a re-write this evening. - annierats, Feb 2, 2012
is:' porque no tuve que ayudar' better?' - annierats, Feb 2, 2012
It's about the same. It is still not the same thing as "didn't have to do any work". :-) - Gekkosan, Feb 2, 2012
As I was doing the horses this occurred to me:'' no había que hacer ningún trabajo.'' - annierats, Feb 2, 2012
Well, that's closer to what I'm hoping to get, but it's rather impersonal. In English you're stating that *you* didn't *have* to do any work. :-) - Gekkosan, Feb 2, 2012
Shall I actually have a 'yo '? Yo no tenía que hacer nada? I'm too tired to think straight! I'll look again tomorrow. Promise! Many thanks. - annierats, Feb 2, 2012
Gekkosan, I realy like the first one best and it's very tiring, please help me out, what is it you want to personalize it? - annierats, Feb 3, 2012
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Given: I took the new tablets for a couple of weeks but I only felt worse and worse.

Attempt : Tomé las pastillas nuevas por unas semanas pero estaba peor cada vez más.

Attempt 2: Tomé las pastillas nuevas por unas semanas pero sentía cada vez peor.

Reasoning: First is a habit that went on for a specific period of time, so we need the preterite. The second is a feeling in the past, which calls for the imperfect.

New: She had already called the waiter to pay for the drinks when she realised that her pockets had been picked.

updated Feb 3, 2012
edited by S1r_Wakka
posted by S1r_Wakka
You are OK with the tenses. For the second part of the sentence there are a few things worth considering: "peor" works just like "worse". We're not supposed to say "more worse" because it's redundant, and we're not supposed to say "más peor" for .... - Gekkosan, Feb 2, 2012
...the same reason. (peor más is even *"more worser"* :-P because the words are in the wrong order! :-) Finally, while you *can* say "estaba peor", there is a more direct equivalent to "felt worse". - Gekkosan, Feb 2, 2012
Is *mal cada vez más* better? If I understand correctly, *cada vez más* is used to indicate a process of things getting increasingly (bad, in this case), so I believe that part of the saying is appropriate here. - S1r_Wakka, Feb 2, 2012
No, "peor" is the right word. So what you want is: "pero me sentía cade vez peor". You were pretty close. :-) - Gekkosan, Feb 2, 2012
You're right. As you already states the first time, I got it in the wrong order. I'm a stubborn learner :-p Thanks for the patience :) - S1r_Wakka, Feb 3, 2012
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New Sentence: I was going to watch the movie alone but my wife wanted to see it too.

Translation: (Yo) iba a mirar la película sola pero mi esposa lo quería ver también.

Corrected: Iba a ver la película solo, pero mi esposa también quería verla.

Reason: I used imperfect for both "ir" and "querer" because neither takes place in a specified time frame. It feels like the beginning of a story that ends "so we went to see it together last night."

Note: I was unsure whether I should use the subject pronoun or not in this case as the conjugation for "ir" is the same for both 1st and 3rd person.

New Sentence: I traded all my money for magic beans but they didn't grow into a beanstalk.

updated Feb 3, 2012
edited by hollyjollyberry
posted by hollyjollyberry
Your tenses are right. The sentence, however, could be tweaked a bit to make it more natural. We usually say "ver" when referring to movies. While nowadays just about everything goes, and "wife and wife" relationships are not impossible, the expectation - Gekkosan, Feb 3, 2012
is still that if you talk about "esposa" then you must be male: therefore "iba a ver la película *solO*". - Gekkosan, Feb 3, 2012
I would translate the sentence as: Iba a ver la película solo, pero mi esposa también quería verla". - Gekkosan, Feb 3, 2012
Thanks, Gekkosan. I am so used to using -a- when referring to myself that I didn't even think about it. :D - hollyjollyberry, Feb 3, 2012
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Given: I traded all my money for magic beans but they didn't grow into a beanstalk.

Traducida: Cambié todo mi dinero por frijoles mágicos, pero no se convirtieron en un beanstalk.

Reason: Hmmmm, They were all a one off action. I think?

New: I was going through a bad time when I got drunk, I didn't realise how idiotic my actions were.

updated Feb 3, 2012
posted by soytommy
Essentially right, Soytommy. I wonder if you could make the extra-effort to find out the translation for "beanstalk", though? ;-) - Gekkosan, Feb 3, 2012
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Given: Yesterday, I went to the pharmacy to pick up a prescription, but it was not ready yet,

Translation: Ayer fui a la farmacia a recoger una receta, pero ya lo todavía no estaba lista.

Reason: My going to the pharmacy was a one-time completed event, so preterite. The past state of the prescription being not ready is imperfect because it is a continuing indefinite condition.

New: My doctor gave me the new prescription when I saw him yesterday.

updated Feb 3, 2012
edited by pesta
posted by pesta
The firs part is fine, and you've got the tenses right. But "not yet" does not translate as "ya lo no". Want to try again? - Gekkosan, Feb 2, 2012
@Pesta: It's very tough in this corner you know, I'm glad you've come to help out. The lizards are very fussy, you could maybe snap one up? - annierats, Feb 2, 2012
Try todavía... - annierats, Feb 2, 2012
I see... so you're all going to gang up against me, huh? Cute. :-P - Gekkosan, Feb 2, 2012
Ten cuidad, the beaks are sharp and the hooves are hard... - annierats, Feb 2, 2012
Beaks and hooves? That would have to be a hippogriff, then... Interesting. :-) - Gekkosan, Feb 2, 2012
Thank you - I have to review the 2000 uses of "ya"... :) - pesta, Feb 2, 2012
Maybe todavía... better? - pesta, Feb 2, 2012
Ayer fui a la farmacia a recoger una receta, perto aún / todavía no estaba listA - Gekkosan, Feb 3, 2012
¡Muchas gracias, Gekko! - pesta, Feb 3, 2012