So sleeeeepy....

Question

I am fascinated to see that there are two very common Spanish words that are related to sleep, and that for some reason do not appear to have an easy translation into English. They have been used in recent threads: "trasnochar'' and ''desvelar''.

I am curious to see how native English speakers would express the following concept:

Ando todo trasnochado. Me desvelé con el ruido de la celebración de los españoles.

Right this moment, I can't think of a short way of saying it.

This question makes me think too much!!! This is so difficult to translate! >:( - MeEncantanCarasSonrisas, JUL 8, 2010

:-) - Gekkosan, JUL 8, 2010

Answer 1

We would say I was up all night. The noise from the Spainards´ celebration kept me awake.

transnochar to stay up all night desvelar to keep awake There are no one word equvialent for these concepts. - BellaMargarita, JUL 8, 2010

Right. That's what I figure... I was hoping I could add a new word or two to my vocabulary. :-) - Gekkosan, JUL 8, 2010

As far as I can tell, no matter how we look at it, this is the final conclusion. See my post marked "Conclusion", below. - Gekkosan, JUL 9, 2010

Answer 2

Tired, fatigued, beat, exhausted can refer to both lack of sleep or from over exertion, but we have words that pertain to each specific context.

Drained, spent is usually used from over exertion (mental or physical) and drowse, drowsy only pertains to lack of sleep. (being sleepy from the effects of drugs, medication, etc.)

Hm! ''Drowsy"is a good one! How about Ï'm all drowsy from being kept up all night by the noise from the celebration''? - Gekkosan, JUL 8, 2010

sounds good to me Gekko - nizhoni1, JUL 8, 2010

Well, I understand it. - 0074b507, JUL 8, 2010

Answer 3

I'm knackered The Spaniards party kept me up all night.

for "knackered" you could substitute "exhausted" "tired out"

Maybe all that's needed is "I was up all night thanks to the Spaniards' party" but that doesn't answer the question properly

Haha - I like that one! - margaretbl, JUL 8, 2010

Yeah, I thought of 'knackered', because some of my English buddies used to employ it in the context of having had a rough night. But it can also refer to any sort of exhaustion. - Gekkosan, JUL 8, 2010

Now this gave me another idea: Ï'm all drowsy. I had a rough night with the noise from the Spaniard's celebration" - Gekkosan, JUL 8, 2010

who says that G? - may'be in the bodice buster days lol - woe is me, I'm all drowsy jeje - Kiwi-Girl, JUL 8, 2010

What! Are you calling me an Old Lizard!? Why, you snotty whipper-snapper, I ought to teach you some manners! ;-) - Gekkosan, JUL 8, 2010

There's another side to "knackered" as well which is "worn out" not in the sense of sleep/exhaustion but in the sense of beyond repair. "These ols shoues are so knackered that I have to throw them away". - lagartijaverde, JUL 8, 2010

I'm pretty sure it's a horsey term, when an old horse (not talking about u G lol) get's past it, worn out, it would get sent off the to knackers yard :) - Kiwi-Girl, JUL 8, 2010

Ouch! - Gekkosan, JUL 8, 2010

Answer 4

How about 'haggard'? (edit or run down) for trasnochado

Desvelar on the other hand has quite a variety of meanings apparently:

Desvelar a vt 1 (=quitar el sueño) to keep awake

el café me desvela coffee keeps me awake or stops me from getting to sleep

2 (=descubrir) [+algo oculto] to reveal, unveil [+misterio] to solve, explain b desvelarse vpr

1 (=no poder dormir) to be unable to get to sleep

2 (=vigilar) to be watchful, keep one's eyes open

desvelarse por algo to take great care over sth se desvela porque no nos falte de nada she works hard so that we should not go short of anything desvelarse por hacer algo to do everything possible to do sth

Ah! And a smart-alec to boot, huh? Heh - heh, you're my kind of gal! This is good! - Gekkosan, JUL 8, 2010

I liked the combination of keep awake (ie. having your eyelids peeled back) and unveiling - my warped mind probably but I liked it. - Kiwi-Girl, JUL 8, 2010

And if we really want to get off-target we could bring 'outdated' into play with trasnochado :p - Kiwi-Girl, JUL 8, 2010

Answer 5

Ando todo trasnochado. Me desvelé con el ruido de la celebración de los españoles.

This is how I would translate it:

= I am shattered from staying up all night .I was kept awake by the noise of the Spaniards' Celebration

Sorry, that was not particularly brief/concise I was more concerned with accuracy

Answer 6

Wow! "Andar" has a lot of meanings when used with other words, so I'm just going to ignore the "to walk/travel" definition and give this a shot.

I was up all night. The Spaniards' celebration kept me awake.

(I didn't translate it as "I was kept up all night by the Spaniards' celebration" because it didn't seem so "natural" (or at least I wouldn't word it that way))

Answer 7

"insomniac" is a great loose translation to "trasnochado". Look it up in a few dictionaries...it pretty much means "in a state of wakefulness by circumstances beyond your control".

reading the definition in this dictionary ,trasnochado gave me more of an impression of watching and waiting,m like with an ill child - nizhoni1, JUL 8, 2010

insomnia rings of a wretched wakefulness no matter what is happening, purposeless with a struggle for sleep - nizhoni1, JUL 8, 2010

Right Nizhoni . Trasnochado simply means you didn't get much sleep, for whatever reason. Imsomniac means you are *unable* to fall asleep, which is not always the case with trasnochado. - Gekkosan, JUL 9, 2010

Answer 8

Ando todo trasnochado. Me desvelé con el ruido de la celebración de los españoles.

Here are a few quick and rough translations:

• I am all tuckered out. I didn't get a wink of sleep with all the racket coming from the Spaniard's celebration. (must have been a good game)

• I am in desperate need of sleep. I couldn't get any sleep with the noise coming from the Spaniard's celebration.

• I am feeling the (after)effects of my forced vigil last night. I was kept up by the Spaniard's celebration.

Answer 9

Ando todo trasnochado:

Another English expression that has a similar sentiment is:

• I am the walking dead / half dead
• I am a zombie

Answer 10

Trasnochar = to be up all night. Andar + present progressive = to be continuously doing something.

Therefore, "I was up all night."

Desvelar = to keep awake/prevent from sleeping. Desvelarse = to not be able to sleep, like you're keeping yourself from sleeping because you're focusing on something I guess

Therefore, "I couldn't sleep with the noise of the Spaniards' celebration."

u an isomniac? - juvia, JUL 9, 2010

Answer 11

I'm beat. The Spaniards' party kept me up all night.

This isnice and short. Nevertheless, "beat" can be used to mean any sort of "really tired", right? Whereas "trasnochado" is a state that only applies to lack of sleep.... - Gekkosan, JUL 8, 2010

True. I was going for the "short". I am a native English speaker, and I don't think we differentiate between kinds of tired (no sleep vs. lots of work). - petersenkid2, JUL 8, 2010

Answer 12

Okay, I am not a native but I have found the phrase "bright-eyed and bushy-tailed'. For example:

Jill: Hi, Jane! How are you on this beautiful morning? Jane: Bright-eyed and bushy-tailed, just as you might expect, since I've only had three hours of sleep. Despite the early hour, Dennis was bright-eyed and bushy-tailed.

Source: http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/bright-eyed+and+bushy-tailed

However, I am not sure whether it is a good equivalent to 'desvelado' and 'trasnochado' in Spanish.

But in this case "bright-eyed and bushy-tailed" is being used sarcastically, since it actually means completely the opposite. - Gekkosan, NOV 13, 2011

Well, you're right. Sarcasm and irony are necessary for the words to mean the same as 'trasnochado'. But, according to this dictionary, it is often used ironically, which obviously does not exlude its opposite meanig, though. True. :( - bomberapolaca, NOV 13, 2011

Answer 13

jejejeje... I opened this up thinking it was a rant/poem/complaint/article about how sleepy someone was. I wanted to add about how little sleep I get.... :D

Ooh well, I'll save my complaints for my mom...

Answer 14

Well I hate to let everyone down, no pressure aye guys lol.

I'm not sure that this exactly hits it on the head but if you had to use only one word, how about?

desvelar: sleepless

if you don't mind a couple of words then there's

suffered sleep deprivation :p

but truthfully I don't think anyone would say either of those naturally, 'kept up' or 'kept awake' (all night) would probably be my choice.

Hm.. I think that's fairly close. Not quite exactly the same concept, but maybe as close as we'll get: I'm all drowsy after having spend a sleepless night thanks to celebrating Spaniards.... - Gekkosan, JUL 9, 2010

or "Spent a wakeful night" - Izanoni1, JUL 9, 2010

And just to throw the cat amongst the pigeons - Juan desvela a sus padres, John gets on his parents' nerves. - Kiwi-Girl, JUL 9, 2010

Answer 15

¿Que tal? "pasé la noche en blanco." debido del ruido de la celebración.

I had a sleepless night due to the noise of the celebration.

Well, yes... but we're trying to find exactly equivalent words in English. :-) - Gekkosan, JUL 9, 2010