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When is too much too much?

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  1. Economy crash. Gov bails out financial institutions. WE the people pay for it. CEO's that failed still in place, still making 6 figures/year.
  2. BP catastrophe. You know the details and follow the news right. Are WE the people going to pay for that mess?
  3. Illegal immigration link text, drug infiltration and now Mexican pirates link text. WE the people are paying for the consequences.

When a country is facing major crisis isn't it when it's time to take drastic measures? Or should we adopt the wise attitude "wait and see"...(until it's too late!)

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updated Jun 1, 2010
posted by sfrenchie

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The absolute disregard of the American citizen's constitutional rights does demand a revolution. America is supposed to be a country where all men are equal. America is supposed to foster individual liberty and creativity. Unfortunately, this liberty and creativity has been smothered by the interests of big government and the corporations that share the same bed. This partnership every day seizes more power and demands more taxes with the promise of keeping us safe from our own "stupidity". Our current government seems to believe that our personal and financial affairs are better left in it's greedy, power-hungry hands than left to the "ineptitude" of the private citizen.

What prevents a revolution? I believe a large portion of our citizenry has accepted the lie that their private concerns are safer in the hands of the government. A large portion of the population is too afraid to appear "politically incorrect" and say what they really think. The benefit to public school systems is that everyone has the chance to learn and empower themselves. The disadvantage to public school systems? A government run system slowly, over the years...day by day...teaches us that we are better off with Uncle Sam caring for our every need. Pretty soon we become "castrated"..unable to take the action necessary to affect change...paralyzed by fear of loosing "Big Brother's care and approval"... so afraid of an uncertain future without the apron strings of big government, that we convince ourselves things aren't as bad as all that.

The solution? We need to think for ourselves, do our own research, and be unafraid of being "different" or "politically incorrect". We need to be proud of our own individuality instead of ashamed of it. We need to research topics and issues for ourselves instead of believing what a politician, religious leader, or college professor says.

This will empower us to become leaders instead of followers. This will inspire a revolution.

updated Jun 1, 2010
posted by renaerules
Hi Renae - eloquent as ever. Vote. - ian-hill, May 30, 2010
Ranae I mentally "Accept" your answer that is equally as good than DonVon's answer. We need millions of you two to make a significant change. - sfrenchie, May 31, 2010
You are an inspiration young lady. I salute you! - ray76, May 31, 2010
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My favorite quote from "Hunt for Red October" is A little revolution, now and then, is a healthy thing, don't you think?

updated Jun 1, 2010
posted by Jack-OBrien
Good line! - 005faa61, May 31, 2010
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It's all a game and we are the pawns, don't play the game, transcend this plane, leave the mundane behind.

updated May 31, 2010
posted by 00813f2a
Or play the game by your own rules. - 00a52084, May 31, 2010
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I couldn’t resist.

Votes meant something long ago; now your vote is absolutely worthless.

If you do not believe this than let me explain. The Big Corporations and Interest Groups (BCIG) have taken over. Through their campaign contributions, they have inflated the cost of running for office making it unaffordable to most people. They have also bought loyalty from the Republican and Democrat Parties and their candidates.

BCIG chooses who you get to vote for; they own, at the least, the Republican and Democrat parties. Some of them own a piece of both parties. They don’t care who you vote for because they are covered either way. Look at all of the campaign promises that have been made to get your vote and never kept; this is because of the campaign promises made to BCIG.

Boston Legal – The character Allen Shore stated “why not make it like NASCAR. The nominees wearing jackets with patches of their sponsors.” Or ad banners placed behind them like you see around the track.

That would be great for us but it would open up a can of worms for the Republicans and Democrats letting everyone see Big Oil, Big Drug, Big Bank, and others behind both parties.

I voted for Ross Perot in the 80s because I wanted to get away from the puppets. This man was Big Business upfront but he was not a puppet of BCIG. Worse case scenario he was the lesser of the other two evils. I have voted independent from that point on. I figure that if my vote really doesn’t matter I might as well waste it on something worth while. Not enough people vote for independent candidates to make my vote worth anything.

The only way to turn this around, if there is still time, is to completely forget about the Republican and Democrat parties, consider them not on the ballot. Focus only on the independent candidates and do your research on these candidates before you vote. If there is only one independent running then you only have one choice. It will be absolutely impossible for the independents to make things worse; however, it is your only hope of turning things politically. This would truly be a revolution without shedding blood and would make your vote worth something again.

“Oh We're Not Gonna Take It no, We Ain't Gonna Take It oh We're Not Gonna Take It Anymore” ~Twisted Sister

updated May 31, 2010
edited by 00a52084
posted by 00a52084
vote - ian-hill, May 30, 2010
There are only 2 meaningful parties in the US, so to vote otherwise is to take away from a vote you would have cast for a candidate with a chance. A vote for Perot was ultimately a cote for Clinton, just as a vote for Nader was a vote for Bush. - Goyo, May 31, 2010
Our only hope is meaningful reform within our two party system. - Goyo, May 31, 2010
The two party system is bought and paid for, reform will only take place when enough independents are voted into congress to make the change. - 00a52084, May 31, 2010
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Politics, a door that should have never been opened. sfrenchie, you only touched the surface of a very deep septic pond. I am going to keep quiet and let the following people speak for me. Some on topic quotes.

"Written laws are like spider's webs; they will catch, it is true, the weak and poor, but would be torn in pieces by the rich and powerful." ~Anacharsis - 6th Century BC

"What I say is that 'just' or 'right' means nothing but what is in the interest of the stronger party." ~Plato 429 - 347 BC

“Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master.” ~George Washington

“Blessed are the young, for they shall inherit the national debt.” ~Herbert Hoover, attributed

By the way, it is already too late.

“The government, which was designed for the people, has got into the hands of the bosses and their employers, the special interests. An invisible empire has been set up above the forms of democracy.” ~Woodrow Wilson

“A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have.” ~Gerald R. Ford

“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years.” ~Attributed to Alexander Fraser Tytler, Lord Woodhouselee. Unverified."

Some unnamed leaders of this country have already pushed Humpty Dumpty off the wall. The question is how long before the inevitable shattering on the ground.

updated May 31, 2010
posted by 00a52084
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I am just wondering what you would have us do? And what is "too late" in the long line of history? If I were a young adult when they dropped the atomic bomb on Hiroshima I might have thought it was too late.Some might have thought it was too late when women got the vote.Others might think the bite of that apple in the garden might have been too late.

updated May 31, 2010
posted by nizhoni1
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sfrenchie asked:

Don, any job openings for programmer, Chef or scuba diver where you are?

Nothing like that where I am. CR is not the place to look for work unless you operate your own business or can find employment in management at a resort. Also, CR has a law that all business must hire Ticos first; if the skill is not available from the locals then they can hire others. This is because unemployment is high. You pretty much need to know someone in one of the resort areas to find work. I don’t because I do not like the tourist towns and avoid them.

Locations to check out are:

Chef and Scuba: Jaco (AKA Gringo or Junko) & Tamarindo (AKA Tamagringo) areas; also, around Bahia Culebra. There are many resorts in those locations and many prefer gringo management. Some have stateside telephone numbers.

For programmer check in the San Jose area.

You will have to do the research.

I am not familiar with the Caribbean side of CR so you’re on your own there.

WOW! That was a nice little tremor “temblor de tierra” , second one this month.

updated Jun 1, 2010
posted by 00a52084
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¿Español?

updated Jun 1, 2010
posted by MattM
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Goyo wrote:

There are only 2 meaningful parties in the US, so to vote otherwise is to take away from a vote you would have cast for a candidate with a chance.

First, I respect your opinion; however:

The only reason “There are only 2 meaningful parties in the US” is because the voting population has made that choice. If a majority of American voters want real change then it can be done. Currently the majority of voters are sheep in one of the partie's flock; voting solely on the (R) or (D) and knowing nothing about what they are voting into office. If enough people rallied behind the independent candidates as they did with Obama then real change could me accomplished.

I am one of the black sheep, my mother even called me that; I do not follow and rarely lead. If anyone wants to follow me we will end up partying. I use to care but now I don’t, hell I moved to Costa Rica to get away from the BS. The rest of you in the US need to think for yourselves instead of following a political party, and if you are already a free thinker I applaud you. I am just calling it how I see it. Look where voting (R) or (D) has put the US. It is insane to keep doing the same thing and expecting different results.

updated May 31, 2010
edited by 00a52084
posted by 00a52084
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Not only the USA Julian.

What is happening now demands a revolution.

The French did it -

updated May 31, 2010
posted by ian-hill
I just wish it were possible to have a revolutio without blood being shed a revolution in people's thinking - FELIZ77, May 30, 2010
I mean revolution as you may ahve already guessed - FELIZ77, May 30, 2010
Unfortunately, the lack-of-bloodshed senario is just a dream. The people in power are more concerned with their own power than betterment of the world. It has always been - 005faa61, May 31, 2010
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You have got to be the change you wish to see in the World. Mahatma Gandhi.

updated May 31, 2010
posted by ray76
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Your choice of drastic measures is the best.

At this point, we need a revolution.

History tells us that revolutions have occurred for reasons less devistating than the ones you have just listed. If we continue as we have, I fear America is going to become a failed state.

updated May 31, 2010
posted by 005faa61
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Don, any job openings for programmer, Chef or scuba diver where you are?

updated May 31, 2010
posted by sfrenchie
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I like this one from Gandhi.

updated May 31, 2010
posted by sfrenchie
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Hi, knizhoni1...too late is when you can't express yourself anymore. Too late in some cases is when the military is in the streets and keeping you shut in your house, shivering while they pass along. As for what we can do...keep your mouth open, shout your disapproval and dissatisfaction (even if it's only to your friends), never give up. Also teach/guide your children to not bend over and take for granted what the media publish. And if that is not enough then as some said the final solution will be revolution (which is coming, slowly but surely.) A good recipe for revolution is unemployment, realizing that politicians on both side are clowns and manipulators, and middle class being degraded to lower class. Add to that invasion from foreign countries, take away more of our freedom every day, dignity and right to simply live a peaceful life and cook it all for a while. Indeed Feliz I too hope a harmless revolution was possible but those that are pulling the strings are not going to let them go that easily.

updated May 31, 2010
posted by sfrenchie