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I have a question about the word "Island"...

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Does somebody know why you don't pronounce the "s" in the word "island"? I just don't understand why... also the state of "Arkansas" why the last "s" is not pronounced, either? I hope you can understand my English. Thank you.

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updated Feb 5, 2014
posted by 00e46f15
The English is perfect. I could understand it very well. - MeEncantanCarasSonrisas, May 20, 2010
Yes Sylyon, your English is just fine. - Yeser007, May 20, 2010
Hey, this could be another A-Z thread. Words with silent letters:) - Yeser007, May 20, 2010
Good idea, yesero. - Rikko, May 20, 2010

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The short and sweet...it's simply a rule in English. When there is an "s" between the letters "i" and "l" it is silent like island or isle. smile As for Arkansas, I really couldn't get a clear answer from a website so I will simply say "because the "s" is silent and that's how it's pronounced". Hey 1 out of 2 isn't bad. smile

updated Feb 5, 2014
posted by Jason7R
Yes, I guess I just have to obey the rules :) - 00e46f15, May 20, 2010
Jason7R, maybe that silent "s" rule is only true if a word starts with them. "Dislike" or "misled", for example, would not have the "s" silent. - Rikko, May 20, 2010
Rikko, good point! - 00e46f15, May 20, 2010
great point Rikko!! You are correct, unless of course we can find something that can dispute this. :) English language, Good Grief (Charlie Brown voice). ;) - Jason7R, May 21, 2010
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Another state, Illinois, doesn't pronounce the last "s" either.

ILL-a-noy

updated May 21, 2010
posted by --Mariana--
Yes, I forgot about Illionis, but Kansas and Texas, you do pronounce the s... - 00e46f15, May 20, 2010
I believe Illinois and Arkansas are pronounced like French words. Yes, you pronounce all the "s" in Kansas and Texas. - Rikko, May 20, 2010
Massachusetts :-) - Delores--Lindsey, May 21, 2010
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There is no rule that defines the pronunciation. The 's' in 'island' came to be because of a misspelling. I pulled the following from entymonline. You have to remember that although English has some roots in Latin, it is not a true romance language.

"Island, spelled iland, first appears in Old English in King Alfred's translation of Boethius about A.D. 888; the spellings igland and ealond appear in contemporary documents. The s in island is due to a mistaken etymology, confusing the etymologically correct English iland with French isle. Isle comes ultimately from Latin ?nsula "island," a component of paen?nsula, "almost-island," whence our peninsula."

updated May 22, 2010
edited by lkelly
posted by lkelly
Very informing. Thanks. - 00e46f15, May 20, 2010
Or, I guess informative, not informing, right? - 00e46f15, May 20, 2010
Yes - informative is right - patch, May 21, 2010
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One of my favorites goes all the way back to George Bernard Shaw. He pointed out the difficulties of spelling in English by showing that you can apply rules from other words to spell "fish" as "ghoti". The explanation: Take "gh" as it is pronounced in "enough" to give you your "f" sound. Take "o" as it is pronounced in "women" to supply your "i" sound. Take the "ti" as it is pronounced in "nation" to supply your "sh" sound. Hence, "fish" can be spelled as "ghoti"!

updated May 22, 2010
posted by christine2
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There's place in the US which became popular because the movie "Somewhere in TIme" was mainly filmed there - Mackinac Island in Michigan. The name of the place is sometimes pronounced like "ma ki no". It's a beautiful and unforgettable place.

updated Feb 5, 2014
posted by Rikko
I LOVE that movie!!!! I didn't know that that is where it was filmed, though. Thank you. - christine2, May 21, 2010
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Silent letters man. It's that simple really.

updated May 22, 2010
edited by TheSilentHero
posted by TheSilentHero
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It's also like the word "white". The "h" isn't pronounced. It's just the rules of English phonetics. Shoot, even I don't understand it and I've been speaking English my whole life!

updated May 21, 2010
posted by MeEncantanCarasSonrisas
I think there's a little bit, a trace, of the "h" sound in "white" though. - Rikko, May 20, 2010
Not in the US, Rikko. - Yeser007, May 20, 2010
depends on the regional accent - Valerie, May 20, 2010
Yesero, Valerie, I just checked with Webster. You are both right. There are 2 ways to pronounce it - one with, the other without, the "h" sound. - Rikko, May 20, 2010
How about "where", "why", is the h silent? I always ommit the sound of the h, but in school they teach you to pronounce it like "who". Once I came to the US, I noticed that nobody does that. So, I just started to ignore that h... :) - 00e46f15, May 20, 2010
It is lazy pronounciation. :-) - Delores--Lindsey, May 21, 2010
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The spelling trick for island = is land. It is a spelling trick because the “s” is silent. Pronounced (ahy-luhnd)

Isle is a short version of Island and the “s” is also silent. Pronounced (ahyl)

Aisle is a walkway and the “s” is also silent. In fact it is pronounced the same as Isle.

They all follow the rule posted by “Jason7R

updated May 21, 2010
posted by 00a52084
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Since some of you are posting about “o” here is something I did a many years before a long time ago and attempted to pull from my memory. Yah we do silly things in grade school.

The “O”

“of” a simple word pronounced (uv) like in up.

Well this type of bird should be spelled “Dof “or “Duv”; but no it is spelled Dove. Pronounced (duv)

But there is an e at the end and the “o” should sound hard, no problem I will fix that.

Dove does have a hard “o” sound after you Dive into the water. Pronounced (dóv)

But they but their spelled the same, can it go more wrong?

If you love this than you will “adore” the next one

Step right in through the “dore” wait that’s wrong! it’s “door” Pronounced (dór) But “a door” has the same “o” sound as “adore”

Do you feel the “doom” of the “o” lingering overhead?

The “oo” in “doom” does not have that “door” sound, it sounds like the “u” in flume.

Are you getting this o sound yet?

Remember the “o”s are “not” that hard.

Hey wait a second, new sound.

A rope with “naught” “knots” is a rope that does “not” have a “knot”.

Yes they are all pronounced the same and where the hell did the “k” “come” “from” Pronounced “cum” “frum”

Just check “above” at the u sound of “of” O.K.

updated Feb 5, 2014
posted by 00a52084
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The word "Polka" is another example. Now, I noticed that people don't pronounce the "l". They pronounce it like "Poka". I guess I just have to memorize them.

updated Jun 30, 2010
posted by 00e46f15
I think more include the l than leave it out in this particular example - LateToDinner, Jun 30, 2010
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Here are some more unusual pronunciation words from skit by a comedian named Galleger (sp)

comb = o sound
bomb = a sound
tomb = u sound

updated May 21, 2010
posted by Leeh
if you noticed you don't really pronounce the last b - lauren12, May 20, 2010
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Lots of pronunciation rules in English don't make sense. These words are pronounced completely differently although they're spelled the same:

through /throo/
rough /ruff/

bough /bou/

dough /doe/

I'm afraid that many times in English you just have to memorize the specific cases :(

updated May 21, 2010
edited by Valerie
posted by Valerie
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Others would be Knife and Know. The K is silent. I"m sure there is a rule somewhere but like MeEncanta...I've learned to live with it without knowing why {Oh look, there's another one, why.}

updated May 21, 2010
posted by Yeser007
We can add words that begin with "pn" too, right? - Rikko, May 20, 2010
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Here is another one. Iceland. In Icelandic the name Iceland is ísland. pronounced

eis laand eis as in the is sound in gris in spanish. translated to english ísland is really Island as well. american's (which i am) or english speakers, when they heard ísland they heard iceland. that's how it got it's name. but iceland's name is really island. I heard this story from my faðir, í íslenska(dad, in icelandic), who in turn heard it from his mother(my grandmother, or amma in icelandic) My grandmother spoke icelandic and visited iceland often she had several awards for her work, and a few medal trophy things, that unfortunately had to be returned when she passed away. In memory of her i am now learning Icelandic. One of the hardest languages to learn. at least in my opinion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Hoz_f26KcE

updated May 23, 2010
posted by lauren12
Icelandic sounds less appealing than Greenland, the version I heard about European settlements. - 00a52084, May 20, 2010
Actually, Iceland is green and greenland is made of ice. greenland has a smaller population, but iceland's economy was not doing really well as of late. - lauren12, May 23, 2010
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You pronounce "Island" like this

(Is-Land)

The word "IS" and "LAND"

Pronounce it like this - I - Land (Island)

updated May 22, 2010
edited by princessjane
posted by princessjane
You pronounce the "s"? - mar959, May 20, 2010
No, you don't pronouce the "S" in island. Eye-land - --Mariana--, May 20, 2010
marianne is right - Valerie, May 20, 2010