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This is a website quiz. Do you know why sometimes a person can earn more than 200 reputation a day (for example, in the past, Melipiru earned 220 reputation and Yesero earned 210 reputation during 24 hrs)?

Why does a person earn -18 reputation after being voted?

The first correct answer will be accepted.


Answer

First, why a person can get over 200 reputation

It is true for the case one votes for answers of that person, then un-votes, and revotes.

For example, once Melipiru attained 200 rep during 24 hrs. Because all votes at that time would give her 0 rep, I un-voted 2 answers of hers (10 rep each) (down to 180 rep a day). She came back to 200 rep in a short time. When I revoted those 2 answers, she was scored 220 rep.

It is done because a vote can’t change its value and time. A vote with X rep Y hrs ago can’t change its position at point stream for reputation when revoting (and also, we aren’t noticed at all if un-voted). To know whether we are un-voted, we need to consider total reputation.

Second, why a person can earn –X reputation for being voted or voting

-It happens when total reputation during 24 hrs is over 200 reputation. If a person is having 200 + r reputation, he/she will earn –r rep after being voted at that time.

-I have a recent experiment with Heidi’s reputation. At that time, she had 200 rep. I un-voted an answer within 24 hrs (down to 190), voted for another, and then re-voted for the previous (to let her have 210). I tried to vote and she earned -10, down to 200. When continuing that process with 23 times to earn -10 rep, she went down to -20 rep during 24 hrs. But when I un-voted an answer that had given her 10 rep, the next vote gave her 0 rep. And she stayed with -20.

Set the 24 hr total reputation of Heidi (over 200 rep) is R. Let T, L be the 24hr total (after being voted) and the lost reputation respectively. We have T-L=R. For example, T=-20, L=23 (-10) = -230, then R= 210. If T=200, L= -10, then R= 210. In Rikko’s case, T= 100, L= 11 (-10) = -110, R=210.


If we un-vote some answers or they are out of 24 hrs, R will be down to under 200, and the deduction ended. When an answer (“Picture of the Day”) of Rikko (that gave him 10 rep) became out of 24 hrs, T=90, R=200, he earned 0 rep for being voted. Besides, if R> 200, each vote of Rikko would give him -10 rep.

Thus, if you want to support a person to earn more than 200 rep a day, you should re-vote after 24 hrs since the first vote. It is true that a person can let another he/she hates lose points infinitely and it looks serious.

On this thread, Luz’s answer for deduction of reputation is quite good and appropriate.

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updated May 15, 2010
edited by 00494d19
posted by Fidalgo
'first' correct answer, although 'soonest' is comprehensible. :) - galsally, May 14, 2010
Your question is incorrect! one cannot earn more than 200 in a day. you can only be awarded 200 in a 24 hour period , it is a question of earned in a day , or awarded in a day, phew i hope you understood that better than I did mate. - ray76, May 14, 2010
Careful, Ray,we have been provided evidence to the contrary! - LateToDinner, May 14, 2010
I changed its title, Ray. ¿Perhaps it is clearer, isn't it? - Fidalgo, May 14, 2010
And thank you, Galsally - Fidalgo, May 14, 2010

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OK...here is another try...one earns negative points because his reputation for the last 24 hours somehow has gone over 200...let's say it became 210...

Probably the software is designed to display the figure: (200 - current_reputation_24 ) or "10" in the place of the X in the message: "You earned X rep for being voted up on..."

The message is triggered by the event "somebody voting"...so this is what we get when somebody voting and we are over 200 =>

...=> 200-210 = -10 i.e. negative reputation points or the message:

"You earned -10 rep for being voted up on..."

And why are we >200?...probably has to do with the 24-hours checking period...somehow we got over before it was last checked...

updated May 15, 2010
edited by luz_72
posted by luz_72
Yes, that's alright, and when a person is having 218 rep, he/she will earn -18 after being voted. Part 2 is mostly complete - Fidalgo, May 14, 2010
This cannot be, because it usually just gives me 0 pts after I reach 200. Rikko was actually going backwards, from 200 down to 90. - danrivera, May 14, 2010
Dan, I think it gives you 0 because at that time you earn 200 rep, not 218 rep during 24 hrs - Fidalgo, May 14, 2010
...are you sure it actually affected the total sum in Rikko's case or it was only in the messages displayed? - luz_72, May 14, 2010
Luz, I wish I could vote for you again :) - Fidalgo, May 14, 2010
yes, in some cases don't go over 200, so it just gives you 0 all the time...I described the case when it somehow went over 200... - luz_72, May 14, 2010
In fact, the total sum of Rikko descreased, from 6.1 K to nearly 5.9 K - Fidalgo, May 14, 2010
Gracias Fidalgo:)...I love maths...this was a challenge for me...:) - luz_72, May 14, 2010
...then he must have gone way over 200 before... - luz_72, May 14, 2010
...I think he had 210, but he got a couple of votes within a short time that turned into negative (200-210=-10)... - luz_72, May 14, 2010
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To prevent one from earning points just by voting for answers. You get points less than a multiple of ten when that's all that's left of your 200 daily limit. Correct?

updated May 14, 2010
posted by Rikko
The limit of my English makes me not understand this - Fidalgo, May 13, 2010
No problem, amigo. Just choose the answer that you think is the best as far as you are concerned. This is your thread. :) - Rikko, May 13, 2010
No, no, I said that I didn't understand what you had said. So please explain your idea clearly - Fidalgo, May 13, 2010
Actually, you have a pretty good grasp of english, Fidalgo, but may I have your permission to point out a few things? - LateToDinner, May 13, 2010
I'm willing, LateToDinner - Fidalgo, May 13, 2010
Rikko - Just voted for you and you got +10 - I have never seen -10 before but you have lots of them. - ian-hill, May 14, 2010
See? Rikko it was Ian's fault, not mine! - LateToDinner, May 14, 2010
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¡Estoy muy confundido! I still have no idea why any of the points would be negative. I saw flags mentioned earlier. Did someone flag Rikko as a demonstration of this thread? Is something else going on? Is his geographical location the culprit? What is happening? ohh

updated May 14, 2010
posted by danrivera
That no one flagged him is the truth :) - Fidalgo, May 14, 2010
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Okay, Fidalgo! You started this. Are you messing with Rikko? I have never seen so many -10s. But I've only been looking for a week or two. Are you messing with all of us? Do you know the answer and are waiting to see who can come up with it or not know and waiting for one that makes sense?
Quick! Wake someone in the tech department befor Rikko gets "minus 10"ed all the way back to cero!

updated May 14, 2010
posted by LateToDinner
Sorry, this is the first time I have seen such many "-10 " points. I'm afraid of it now - Fidalgo, May 14, 2010
Jejeje. Thanks, but really no big deal. They're just numbers. Tomorrow's another day. I feel like Benjamin Button now. :))))) - Rikko, May 14, 2010
Lol @ Benjamin Button. :-p - danrivera, May 14, 2010
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I just noticed something rather strange now. A while ago when I was trying to figure out where you got the 210 points, I found it by clicking on the reputation value. I am very sure the value when I clicked it earlier was 6.1K. However, just now when I looked at my reputation total on top of the page, I saw 6K. I wonder what happened to the 0.1k I had earlier. Did I get flagged somewhere? grin

updated May 14, 2010
edited by Rikko
posted by Rikko
It's called the "vig", the percent the house takes. - LateToDinner, May 14, 2010
What happened? After my votes, you earn -10 rep each. Sorry - Fidalgo, May 14, 2010
Maybe it's not that. I did notice that I had a lot of votes this morning. Maybe I just went way over 200 and now the system is putting it back to 200. - Rikko, May 14, 2010
Just now I checked and I only have 180 points. So I in the last 15 minutes I lost 30 points. Am I in the twilight zone??? :)))) - Rikko, May 14, 2010
I just checked again and I got 5 votes most recently and each one is -10 and so my total for today is down to 160. Does this normally happen and I just noticed them now because of this topic? :) - Rikko, May 14, 2010
I had 290 two days ago and lost 90 , but that is just " the way it is' but i want to know whose 24 hoiurs is it I am below the Equater and the other side of the international date line so I realy am in the "Twilght zone" ! - ray76, May 14, 2010
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Do you know why a person can earn more than 200 reputation a day? Why can a person earn -18 reputation after being voted?

You can't earn more than 200 reputation a day. This is to allow others to have a chance to "beat" your reputation. Like when someone makes a really cool game and it gets more than 40 votes.If that person got 400 points that day, it would be more difficult for people with lower scores to catch up. You can earn less that the points you should get when you reach your 200 point limit for the 24hours. So, if you already got 182 points for the day and you got an answer accepted, it shows up as 18 points to keep you from exceeding your 200 reputation limit.

updated May 13, 2010
posted by MeEncantanCarasSonrisas
In common, 200 is the limit number. But sometimes we can pass it - Fidalgo, May 13, 2010
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Hi Fidalgo,

I think the reputation variable is stored in 2 different locations, the first one holding the accumulative value and updated on every voting (event) and the second one updated in a (small) time interval getting the current value of the first...

It can happen that the accumulation on the first location exceeds 200 in the short time interval before the second one is updated. Then we have for example 210 for some time, and during that time "negative" votes are triggered...as happened to Rikko when you all tried to restore his rep pointssmile

updated May 15, 2010
posted by luz_72
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I don't have an answer to this question; however, in the past few hours since I noticed this question, I've been tracking my "reputation points". I've been wondering when/how the 24 hr. time period is determined.

Here's what I discovered. It seems as if the 24 hr. time frame is constantly changing and is based upon when a person achieved their most recent 200 point maximum. For example: If 23 hrs. ago I achieved my 200 pt. limit based on 20 reputation points earned at that moment, then 1 hour (and 1 minute?) from now I should have 20 reputation points available to be earned.

Does this make sense to anyone?

updated May 15, 2010
posted by Pajaro44
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Ok, I think this topic is exhausted, I see no point in pursuing this.

Thanks.

updated May 15, 2010
posted by 00494d19
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I asked about this a week ago using the "contact" link that you can find if you search diligently enough. To date no answer. One clarification I'd love to have is what constitutes a "day". Is it twenty four hours back from this very second or does it run like other folks' days from midnight to midnight and if the latter then whose midnight??

Re danrivera's comment - it seems to me that it's minute by minute too. However after 45 years in the business of advising people what systems they need, designing them, fixing them, editing them, reporting on them, advising on how to design them etc. I find I like to have a specification and with it a user guide that actually defines details like these.

updated May 14, 2010
edited by geofc
posted by geofc
It appears to be minute-to-minute. As my available rep updates throughout the day. - danrivera, May 14, 2010
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The "day" is not a calendar day. It is a rolling 24 hour period from the time at any moment.That might be why you see the number drop off.

I read this whole thing and still do not understand how you get more than 200.And I have seen -10 show up on my points when I was voted up and have no explanation. If I am at 200 usually votes just show as 0

updated May 14, 2010
posted by nizhoni1
Lo mismo para mi, tambien. - danrivera, May 14, 2010
Gracias por el regreso a español! - LateToDinner, May 14, 2010
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Huh? Fidalgo, I have a feeling this may be a stupid question, but how did you know about those 210 points? What I normally see in my profile page is that there is a list activities and included there are the points I earn for voting an answer or getting a vote for my answer, among other things. I do notice that at times I get a number of "0" points, but I always assume that that's because I already reached 200 points. Like I think a couple of hours ago I already saw those "0" points, but I have no idea that it's 210 points as you said. Is it an administrator's privilege to see those values or am I just missing something here? ohh grin

Fidalgo, please ignore this. I already figured it out myself. LOL

updated May 14, 2010
edited by Rikko
posted by Rikko
I just checked your link and I saw the 210 points there. I don't see that when I look at my profile though. - Rikko, May 14, 2010
Oh, I see now. Those numbers come out when you click on the points under the avatar. Never explored that feature before. :)))) - Rikko, May 14, 2010
So now I really wonder how I got the extra 10 points. - Rikko, May 14, 2010
I saw the 210, found a rikko question, voted it up, rechecked and it was !down! to 200. I'm liking my answer more and more. - LateToDinner, May 14, 2010
Do you see that you earned -10 rep? :) - Fidalgo, May 14, 2010
Right! Now I see negative values. They were positive values earlier. Does that mean that there is a clearing period or something like that for the extra points? - Rikko, May 14, 2010
LateToDinner, you should give me back my 10 points or you'll never make it to dinner. Jejejeje. Just kidding. :) - Rikko, May 14, 2010
Leave me enough to vote up some of the truely great Q &/or A and you can have as many as you can take! - LateToDinner, May 14, 2010
Click under my avatar and see what i have lost over the past two weeks and you will understand how it is done. good luck! - ray76, May 14, 2010
:) - Fidalgo, May 14, 2010
Haven't figured out the -10 thing, but I see you won another badge for provoking! - LateToDinner, May 14, 2010
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One probably earns negative reputation (-10) when being unvoted, right Fidalgo?smile...Btw is someone experimenting with Rikko's points, so the software can be tested?smile

updated May 14, 2010
posted by luz_72
If one is unvoted, the activity that records " (the person) earned reputation for being voted will disappear in the history of point stream for reputation without a word. - Fidalgo, May 14, 2010
Good guess. - danrivera, May 14, 2010
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OK, this is getting more strange now. I just looked at my profile and saw that some of my -10 points are now just 0 points. There are still some -10 points though. Then someone just voted for one of my answers and the activity list says that I got a +10, however, when I look at my reputation points for the day, it's down to 80. So that means, the +10 I just got became a -10 in the summation. I am really lost now with what's going on. confused rolleyes LOL

updated May 14, 2010
posted by Rikko
No, that's incorrect. You had total 11 activities with "-10" rep (10 times being voted, 1 voting). And now they are still there. - Fidalgo, May 14, 2010
Earlier, I saw that I had three -10 votes for the Building & Construction answers. However, just before I posted the above answer I saw that they have become "0". - Rikko, May 14, 2010
It's almost 11 p.m. here now and I better get some sleep. Will just check again in the morning. I'm not going to lose sleep over this. Jejejeje - Rikko, May 14, 2010
Alright :) - Fidalgo, May 14, 2010
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Estoy muy confundida. Fidalgo, explíquemelo por favor!

updated May 14, 2010
posted by Luciente
Thanks, Luciente. I still want to wait some more time - Fidalgo, May 14, 2010