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Should the Dictionary Have a "Family Filter?"

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So I was just casually looking up a word starting with the letter "b" in the Span¡shD!ct Dictionary. What immediately caught my attention was the word "B!tch" (I'm not quite sure what words are allowed in the forum, so an admin may change that to whatever they wish). Partly because I am an adolescent teen male, but mostly for my concern for other people, I looked up a few other "naughty words," if you will, to see if they were in the dictionary... they were.

Now I realize that one would hear these words one time or another, and many people desire them to be translated, but what about the children of this magnificent website? What about the people that may find offense to seeing these words when they type something remotely close in the dictionary bar? Should we/they suffer?

This is why I am proposing a "Family Filter," if there is not one already. I think, perhaps, that this should hide sexual and profane words and content from the website. What do you think?

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updated Apr 11, 2010
posted by nrdyAWSM
I totally agree, I even think we should remove offensive books from the library... what good could such trash do? - Neago, Mar 30, 2010
I would like admin and the moderators to note however, that I am very offended by ANY mention of the human body. So, to be fair to everybody, I really believe they should remove all vocabulary related to the human body and its activities... - Neago, Mar 30, 2010
I will feel much more comfortable using this site then... thanks! - Neago, Mar 30, 2010

11 Answers

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Heavens no, it's a dictionary. The very suggestion is appalling and sends a shiver down to my very core. Do you really think a family filter would be something that the site could just "turn on" without a great expenditure of money? They would have to log every word that you consider bad and add it to the filter.... which they would have to hire programmers to build and implement thereby providing the possibility of breaking what is probably the best Spanish dictionary that I have ever come across. There is nothing wrong with the dictionary. Besides, my mother always taught me that there are no bad words, there are only people that use words in a bad way. As long as you aren't using the words to hurt people then there is no reason to shield yourself from them.

updated Mar 30, 2010
posted by jeezzle
I think your mum and I would get along, jeezle! - galsally, Mar 30, 2010
Buen hecho amigo. - Goyo, Mar 30, 2010
Nice answer. - --Mariana--, Mar 30, 2010
The last part is definitely true. It's what I was thinking while typing these. Most bad words don't literally have bad meanings. Unfortunately, I think many people do not understand the meanings, as they just use them for insults. - nrdyAWSM, Mar 30, 2010
I have also seen the logging done. There are volunteers for like... EVERYTHING. So maybe it will take a long time to log offensive words, but it's not impossible. I suppose some people are more bothered then others by these words. - nrdyAWSM, Mar 30, 2010
And a vote from me - well said. - caza, Mar 30, 2010
Have a vote from me jeezle. - ian-hill, Mar 30, 2010
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I can see where you're coming from, but I'd like to echo what others have pointed out and respectfully disagree.In my view, there are a handful of problems with what you're proposing.

  • How do we define "offensive" or "obscene?" Even the Supreme Court didn't manage to get a good answer for this one.

  • If we manage to draw some borders around offensive content, will those borders stay the same over time? Who determines what's eliminated next?

  • "Offensiveness," "immorality," "inappropriateness," etc.. are heavily influenced by both time and culture. Since this is a bilingual, multicultural space, eliminating certain terms based on (what would appear to be) a largely anglo understanding of "offensive" is, I think, dangerous.

  • This is a great space precisely because it encourages language and cultural learning. The fact is that the words and phrases you and others might want to remove are part of the languages being learned here. The way I see it, there's nothing wrong with having them available.

  • And finally.. a "family filter" is a bit of a redundancy, isn't it? If young, impressionable people who are too young to understand the contexts of potentially offensive content are using this site, shouldn't they have appropriate adult guidance while they do so? Shouldn't their family be their "filter" to begin with?

At any rate, AWSM, if you really are an "adolescent teen male" as you say, it seems like you're already smart enough to know how to process unfamiliar or uncomfortable content. I think we can trust others to be similarly sophisticated.

updated Apr 11, 2010
edited by nuxita
posted by nuxita
I would certainly hope that families would filter! But most of the things that kids get into are a result of not being watched! And I hadn't thought about the whole bilingual-offensive thing.! Availability is obviously key, but even Google has a SafeSe - nrdyAWSM, Mar 30, 2010
Google has a SafeSearch because Google is, essentially, the entirety of the internet. To put it more bluntly, you cannot shape every corner of the internet to suit your tastes. You are wasting your time trying to do so. - nuxita, Mar 30, 2010
I would like to point out that no filter is perfect... maybe ESPECIALLY google's "safe search". I have, by no fault of my own, stumbled upon some very unwanted content using google with the supposed "strict" filter in place. - Espectro-Q, Apr 11, 2010
but yes, i do belive you are correct nuxita - Espectro-Q, Apr 11, 2010
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No, no, no, no, no. You can't be serious. It's a dictionary. I'd rather have my kid looking up "naughty words" on this site than looking for all of the other garbage that is available on the internet.

By the way, you don't sound very adolescent.

updated Mar 31, 2010
edited by h1deaway
posted by h1deaway
Well that is true. There is so much trash on the internet nowadays. However, kids shouldn't be hearing these words anywhere for as long as they can, in my opinion. But I def see your point. Thanks! - nrdyAWSM, Mar 30, 2010
Then perhaps a bubble is in order. It is impossible to shield children from everything we consider to be negative. The best we can do is teach teach children how to make sound decisions and exercise good judgment. - h1deaway, Mar 30, 2010
I suppose one must learn at one time or another. - nrdyAWSM, Mar 30, 2010
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I think all content should be allowed.

updated Mar 30, 2010
posted by thekacks
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My spanish dictionary here at home has a fair few words of the type to which you're referring - and I don't see how that could be filtered unless I start getting a permanent marker out and defacing it!

My own view is that a word is just a word and although some people might feel offended by one, it can't actually harm anybody, unlike actions, or indeed some images which can stay with you forever.

I think there's a lot more on the internet to be concerned about than some 'naughty' words in a dictionary.

Just my opinion. Oh, and of course b!tch isn't primarily a naughty word anyway...

Peace.

updated Mar 31, 2010
edited by galsally
posted by galsally
oh, I see I have to mess about with b!tch to get it to appear in a b3stardised form :P - galsally, Mar 30, 2010
You can call that **** a dog, but dont call that dog a ****. Or "one mans **** is another mans dog" Only having fun . Be well and happy! - ray76, Mar 30, 2010
The ginus Canius. Canine . Male is a dog, female is a ****. - ray76, Mar 30, 2010
I do like where you're coming from. But I suppose some people take it more offensively than others. - nrdyAWSM, Mar 30, 2010
they might indeed, but you can't pussyfoot around the entire community solely to avoid offence being taken. - galsally, Mar 31, 2010
And that's not what I have intended to do. Most other dictionaries have filters, why can't this? ya know? lol - nrdyAWSM, Mar 31, 2010
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Hm, yes, an excellent suggestion in my opinion. I mean, why shouldn't a person be able to turn on a "Family Filter" to block unwanted content? It works for other sites as well. I'm sure a filter would be much appreciated.

updated Mar 30, 2010
edited by Espectro-Q
posted by Espectro-Q
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Surely we are all adult enough to use our own tried and tested bult-in filters, there has not been anything I have read which I have found offensive or that which I have not wanted to read ." Honi soit qui mal y pense" rolleyes

updated Apr 1, 2010
edited by ray76
posted by ray76
Honi soit qui mal y pense. - samdie, Mar 30, 2010
Thank you so much , my old memory aint what it used to be. - ray76, Apr 1, 2010
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Oh, and of course b!tch isn't primarily a naughty word anyway

Exactly the point I would make. It all depends on context and culture, especially since the thresholds for offending and being offended are all over the map these days. So should there be a filter? My vote: **** no.

updated Mar 31, 2010
posted by 008f2974
jejeje dogbert! - galsally, Mar 31, 2010
I actually kind of laughed at the intentional irony or the last sentence. As someone else has brought to my attention, it is dangerous to define an English and a Spanish "line of offensiveness." - nrdyAWSM, Mar 31, 2010
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Should the Dictionary Have a "Family Filter?"

No.

updated Mar 30, 2010
posted by --Mariana--
Short and sweet. How did you post this? I normally get "your reply requires 4 letters", Oh, Im see now , the previous quote. - Eddy, Mar 30, 2010
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A family filter would be a "right b!itch" to administer.

When I entered the above but with an "i" and not the "!" I got the following message at the top of the screen,

Your post has been detected as having possible profane language. Please know that this goes against the rules of SpanishDict as a family-friendy site, and that you are advised to edit your post.

It would seem we have filters already.

updated Mar 31, 2010
edited by ian-hill
posted by ian-hill
Ah yes perhaps in the forum. Which is good. But one in the dictionary, perhaps, would be great. - nrdyAWSM, Mar 30, 2010
Interesting...I didn't know that, Ian. - --Mariana--, Mar 30, 2010
Marianne - you obviuosly do not us "bad" words in your posts. :) - ian-hill, Mar 30, 2010
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So I was just casually looking up a word starting with the letter "b" in the Span¡shD!ct Dictionary. What immediately caught my attention was the word "B!tch" (I'm not quite sure what words are allowed in the forum, so an admin may change that to whatever they wish). Partly because I am an adolescent teen male, but mostly for my concern for other people, I looked up a few other "naughty words," if you will, to see if they were in the dictionary... they were.

Rather than us installing a "family filter", I propose that you stop looking up naughty words in our dictionary if you don't wish to see them!

updated Mar 30, 2010
posted by Goyo
Hey hey I was looking them up to see if all of these words were in there! Bitch is what comes up with "b!" - nrdyAWSM, Mar 30, 2010
Not as short as Marianne, but very apt. - Eddy, Mar 30, 2010