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Translation Exercise for Beginners: Number 11

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This is a thread specifically designed with beginners in mind. If other exercises intimidate you this one shouldn't! Keep in mind that it doesn't matter if you don't get it all right. The actual process of attempting translation, and then correcting yourself is what helps us learn!

There are three rules:

  • Don't look at other people's translations until you have made your own.
  • Do not use a translation engine. (Although you can use a dictionary)
  • Do vote for the best answers and this thread. If there is a tie, votes make a difference.

So here is our sentence for Number 11:

"Algún día en cualquier parte, en cualquier lugar indefectiblemente té encontrarás a ti mismo, y ésa, sólo ésa, puede ser la más feliz o las más amarga de tus horas."

Pablo Neruda

Please remember to answer and then vote! This helps our thread and helps to choose a winner because if there is a word-for-word tie the answer with the most votes wins! The winner automatically recieves 20 reputation points not counting any votes he/she may have garnered. Every participant receives a vote from me as well for participating. Keep in mind that if you need some time to come up with an answer and if the thread disappears you can find it under the category: Games and Challenges. Have fun! The translation will be posted on Sunday.

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updated Apr 21, 2010
posted by renaerules
Is this for beginners in English or Spanish or doesn't it matter? - chull, Feb 25, 2010
All are welcome to join! Please do! - renaerules, Feb 25, 2010
this exercise will benefit you whichever language you are studying. - renaerules, Feb 25, 2010

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Algún día en cualquier parte, en cualquier lugar indefectiblemente té encontrarás a ti mismo, y ésa, sólo ésa, puede ser la más feliz o las más amarga de tus horas.

Someday in any part, in any place, you will inevitably find yourself, and that, only that can be the happiest or the bitterest of your hours.

You like it to make us sweat, don't you ...? grin

updated Feb 28, 2010
posted by Alrisaera
It's what makes you better! I have to push you if I love you! :) - renaerules, Feb 26, 2010
Alrisaera! It was worth the sweat! You did an excellent rendition and are best answerer! Congratulations! See my comments and the translation to see how it can be better. Read everyone else's comments to...it helps you see how to break it down! - renaerules, Feb 28, 2010
Ooooh, I almost can't believe this... You make me blush like a little girl... Thank you Renae ! - Alrisaera, Feb 28, 2010
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Someday, somewhere, anywhere, unfailingly, you will find yourself, and that, only that, can be the happiest or most bitter hour of your life. -- Pablo Neruda .

updated Feb 28, 2010
posted by LaBurra
I so greatly appreciate seeing you all come back to my threads! It's starting to feel like a family around here! - renaerules, Feb 26, 2010
These are good threads to help us learn to interpret meaning, not just translate words. Thanks. - LaBurra, Feb 26, 2010
My pleasure! I get just as much learning experience as you do, hunting down sentences and translating them without error is great practice! - renaerules, Feb 27, 2010
Very nice! I thing stringing the first four words together does cause the sentence to lose a little of the meaning. "that" should be "that day" or "that one" also "tus horas" indicates your life span not a specific hour in your life. - renaerules, Feb 28, 2010
Altogether, though, very well done. - renaerules, Feb 28, 2010
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Ooh, tough one.

Let's try this:

Some day, you are certainly going to find yourself, and then, only then, will it be the happiest or the bitterest time for you.


Going with a bit more poetic license:

You’ll certainly find yourself one day, and when you do, only then will you know your happiest or most painful moment.

updated Feb 28, 2010
edited by CrazyDiamond
posted by CrazyDiamond
Yes, find yourself is better than meet yourself. - Lise-Laroche, Feb 25, 2010
Hi, Crazy! - renaerules, Feb 26, 2010
Very creative translations. Yours read really smoothly in English. I applaud you for that. Both translations however are missing the phrase, "en cualquiere parte, en cualquiere lugar" - renaerules, Feb 28, 2010
Sorry, my English training took over! It is spelled: cualquier - renaerules, Feb 28, 2010
You need "that one" or "that day" not "then" - renaerules, Feb 28, 2010
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"Algún día en cualquier parte, en cualquier lugar indefectiblemente té encontrarás a ti mismo, y ésa, sólo ésa, puede ser la más feliz o las más amarga de tus horas."

Some day in some place, any place, you will inevitably find yourself, and that, only that will be the happiest or bitterest of times.

Had to add a word I overlooked. red face

updated Feb 28, 2010
edited by 00d7cd75
posted by 00d7cd75
Welcome back! - renaerules, Feb 26, 2010
You did really well here Ken. I really like what you did with this translation. It is almost perfect. "that" should be "that one" or "that day" "times" should be "your hours" (boring) or "the hours of you life" (using the implied meaning this one's best) - renaerules, Feb 28, 2010
I do see where you were going with "times" though! I really, really like this one. - renaerules, Feb 28, 2010
Any place is better as somewhere. - renaerules, Feb 28, 2010
Ken, you are second...honorable mention you do deserve. - renaerules, Feb 28, 2010
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Some day in any place, in any town you will encounter your flawless self, and that, only that, could be the most happy or the most painful of your hours.

This is my best guess. This exercise was tough!

updated Feb 28, 2010
posted by alice_m
You all have been doing so well on the other exercises I thought it would be best to make it just a wee harder. Thanks for coming around again Alice..see you Sunday! - renaerules, Feb 25, 2010
Great job! You only missed one big thing. "flawless self" should be "yourself" and the word "indefectiblemente" plays an entirely different role in the sentence....can you fix it? - renaerules, Feb 28, 2010
Besides misusing that one word, it was almost perfect! - renaerules, Feb 28, 2010
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Someday, somewhere, in some location, inevitably you will meet yourself, and this one, only this one, can be your most happy or your most bitter hour.

updated Feb 28, 2010
posted by Lise-Laroche
Welcome back! - renaerules, Feb 26, 2010
oh, I like "inevitably"... wish I would have thought of that. :) - jaimecole, Feb 26, 2010
Very good! You need "that one" not "this one". Best is "that day". When, "that one" is used in this sentence it is refering back to "someday". therefore "that one" insinuates "that day" - renaerules, Feb 28, 2010
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Someday, somehow, somewhere, you will find yourself and that, only that, will be the happiest or the most painful moment of your life.

updated Mar 2, 2010
posted by fatchocobo
Welcome! Make sure to update your post and check the answer on Sunday. - renaerules, Feb 26, 2010
Nice try! I like how you understood that "tus horas" is discussing your life not an actual hour. You missed a part of the sentence entirely, the word "indefectiblemente". Can you indicate that change in your translation without my help? - renaerules, Feb 28, 2010
I could have changed it but I figured that was kind of like cheating after looking at the other answers - fatchocobo 1 sec ago - fatchocobo, Mar 2, 2010
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Hi everyone!

I am glad to say that after correcting your answers, I am really proud of you all. For those of you that have been regulars I am seeing you improve a little every time! If you didn't notice, I have been pushing you just a little more with each exercise, choosing slightly more difficult quotes. You have definitely risen to the challenge.

Congratulations Alrisaera! You are best answerer!

Ken deserves honorable mention as second with his translation as well!

There were two things that seemed tough for everyone so we will review those together here.

First:

ésa = that one or those ones

esa = that

The difference is very small but can carry a big difference in nuance. Congratulations, Jaimie, for being the only one to catch the difference!

Our sentence starts out with "One day", so it would follow that "that one" refers to "One day" or restated "that one day" or "that day".

Second:

indefectiblemente = without fail, inevitably, surely, certainly, unfailingly

So here is the translation!

"One day, without fail, somewhere or someplace you will find yourself; and that day, only that day, can be the happiest or the most bitter hours of your life."

Thank you everyone! This was fun. Look for Translation Exercise for Beginners: Number 12! It will carry a little bit of implied meaning as well! Until next time around...

updated Feb 28, 2010
posted by renaerules
Good work Renae, It's very sweet you do this for the beginners, it sure helps them out! Getting my vote for the work correcting :) - Zizoun, Feb 28, 2010
Thank you Zizoun, I have to point out that it is really sweet of you to provide corrections for me when I need them too! - renaerules, Feb 28, 2010
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I had a little trouble with this one, but here is my best guess. (Hope I didn't take too much license with it.)

Someday, in some spare moment, somewhere, indefectibly you will find yourself, and that one moment and only that one moment, can be the happiest or the most painful hour of your life.

updated Feb 28, 2010
edited by jaimecole
posted by jaimecole
Hi Jaime! Never be afraid to attempt what you think is the best answer! This is the only way to truly find out what is best not to mention that you learn quicker when you push yourself! - renaerules, Feb 26, 2010
You did really well! I like the creative wording that did not take meaning from the sentence. I am impresses that I see "that one" in an answer! That was pretty tough for everybody. But you assigned "that one" to a moment - renaerules, Feb 28, 2010
"that one" in this sentence is refering to "someday". The meaning of the sentence changes when we lose track of this understanding. - renaerules, Feb 28, 2010
Thanks Renae, that makes sense. and I really love these translations. You are really forcing me to translate better. - jaimecole, Feb 28, 2010
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My answer as close to word for word that I can make it "Some day in any part in any place you will find yourself and then, and only then, it may be the happiest or most bitter of your hours."

thank you for this it was a bit tough but I learned a lot from doing it.

updated Feb 28, 2010
posted by teresa3101
Thank you for playing! It's nice to see you back. - renaerules, Feb 25, 2010
Very nice! You did a great job of making the sentence understandable. You missed an important word: "indefectiblemente". Can you look it up and figure out how it fits? Let me know! Also you need "that one" or "that day" not "then". That's it! - renaerules, Feb 28, 2010
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Some day, somewhere, at sometime, you will have a perfect feeling when you and only you know the most happiness and the most pain at the same time.

updated Feb 28, 2010
posted by Aamos
Welcome to my thread...feel free to attempt making your translation stronger if you come up with better wording. - renaerules, Feb 26, 2010
Nice try! :-) - chaparrito, Feb 26, 2010
Good first try here! A couple things: You missed the word "indefectiblemente". Watch how it changes the nuance of the sentence when added. Look it up here on our dictionary and change your sentence accordingly. - renaerules, Feb 28, 2010
"You will have a perfect feeling" this phrase should actually be discussing how you find yourself. - renaerules, Feb 28, 2010
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Some day, somewhere, someplace your will surely find yourself, and that, only that can be your happiest or bitterest hour.

updated Feb 28, 2010
posted by Ruth-Bishop
Very good! Couple things...I like surely, you caught the necesity for that. You need "that one" or "that day" not just "that". Also, "tus horas" indicates the amount of time you have on the earth not a specific hour. - renaerules, Feb 28, 2010
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Hi everyone, Please vote!!!!!!!! Today is our last day on this exercise. Everyone weigh in with any last edits, comments, or even first attempts! Thank you for joining in.

updated Feb 27, 2010
posted by renaerules
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We are looking at one day left before best answer is due. Please, everyone reading this note, vote for our participants. This helps tremendously if there are a few close or tied translations. Voting assures that the best content or the most popular content is identified and encouraged!

updated Feb 27, 2010
posted by renaerules
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Hi everyone! I have looked over your responses so far, and you are really doing great! I want to challenge those of you who have already submitted an entry. What would make the translation make more sense in English and add "word power" to it? Hint: Think of synonyms and word structure! Feel free to edit your original submission if you are struck with a genius idea! See you around the bend!

updated Feb 26, 2010
posted by renaerules