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Recientemente tuve una pequeña discusión con una persona que dice ser bilingue. Esta persona, como muchas en este país (USA), habla, lee y escribe relativamente bien inglés. Sin embargo habla "Spanglish", no español, lee y escribe muy mal el español. Es una persona nacida y criada aquí y el poco español que habla lo aprendió de sus padres, de origen mejicano.

Para mi, una persona bilingue (inglés-español), es una persona que habla, lee y escribe bien los dos idiomas, punto.

Me gustaría conocer su opinión. Gracias

Recently I had a little discussion with someone that says she is bilingual. This person, like many in this country (USA), speaks, read and write relatively well English. However, she speaks Spanglish, not Spanish and read and write very badly her Spanish. She was born and raised here in America and the poor Spanish she speaks she learned it from her parents, originally from Mexico.

In my opinion, a bilingual person (English-Spanish), is a person that speaks, reads and writes well in both languages, period.

I would like to know your opinion. Thank you.

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updated Mar 6, 2014
edited by RicardoP
posted by RicardoP
Thank you for such a great topic. I'm sure we will all learn from the different points of view expressed. - Goyo, Feb 12, 2010
Con mucho gusto Goyo - RicardoP, Feb 12, 2010
Buen hilo Ricardo - Izanoni1, Feb 12, 2010
buen hilo Ricardo - Nicole-B, Feb 12, 2010
Yes, good topic. - Goldie_Miel, Oct 26, 2011

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Spanglish is neither English nor Spanish, so that will make the person MONOlingual rolleyes

Now some serious consideration: I think more like RicardoP: a bilingual person is someone who does not make any difference when using one language or the other, like so many Canadians do in Montreal. Or Italians speaking dialect and the official language. Or the Swiss. Or any other person who is born and raised in a bilingual community.

However, I ´m not sure USA is a bilingual country. It´s a heavily Spanish influenced country due to a growing Spanish-speaking community but far from a bilingual country. So, I think very few people may be considered bilingual in those conditions.

Anyway, if you don´t feel bilingual is a good adjective for your friend, you can say s/he´s not a pure bilingual, so you will add a clear distinction between someone fluent on a second language and someone who has developed both languages from the cradle.

I speak some good Italian too (although it´s a bit rusty) but I do not consider myself trilingual.

The subject is controversial and has been around for decades. Check this article on multilingualism.

And what about polyglots? Are there pure polyglots and amateur polyglots?

Check these people. They are amazing!

· João Guimarães Rosa - one of the most famous Brazilian writers, spoke more than twelve languages fluently, read eighteen.

· James Joyce - famous Irish writer, spoke thirteen languages.

· Anthony Burgess - British writer, knew thirteen languages, fluent in eight.

updated Oct 26, 2011
edited by mediterrunio
posted by mediterrunio
Thanks for the links medi. - Izanoni1, Feb 14, 2010
Very interesting medi, very interesting. Thanks a lot for giving us a bit of your time and knowledge. - RicardoP, Feb 14, 2010
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Wow, who would've have thought defining bilingual would be so difficult. In the Phillipines Mix-Mix or Hulo-Hulo is a very accepted pattern of speech. In one sentence, there may be words or phrases from 3 or more languages. In general, the speaker will use the whichever language expresses the word or phrase most succinctly and efficiently.

One needs to be proficient in all the languages to follow the conversation but based on some of the definitions here, that person wouldn't be considered bilingual because they rarely speak purely in one language.

updated Oct 26, 2011
posted by jacob4408
I live in the Philippines and I think Taglish/Englog are among the most annoying hybrid languages. The propensity to speak them is great, which is why I make a conscious effort not to succumb. - jaimetayag, Feb 12, 2010
In Madagascar many educated people speak "Vary amin'ny ananana" which is a mix of Malagasy, English, and French. - lachelvi, Feb 18, 2010
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Pienso que es importante ver la diferencia entre ser bilingüe fuera del trabajo y ser bilingüe en el lugar de trabajo. Si puedes decir lo que quieres y entender todo lo que eschuchas en dos lenguas, pienso que eres fluido. Pero si no puedes ni leer ni escribir en la segunda lengua, pienso que estarías mintiendo si esribieras "Soy bilingüe" en tu resumen. Para mí, ser bilingüe completamente (en el contexto del trabajo como dijo lachelvi) incluye poder leer y escribir bien.

updated Oct 26, 2011
edited by Luciente
posted by Luciente
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In my opinion, a bilingual person (English-Spanish), is a person that speaks, reads and writes well both languages, period.

Whilst I would agree that the above is essential, you cannot be considered completely biligual until you can sit in front of a television, a radio or a cinema screen and completely understand what is being said. Only then, in my opinion, can you be considered truly bilingual.

updated Oct 26, 2011
posted by Eddy
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Estoy de acuerdo con DR1960 (por la mayor parte). Yo no diría que soy bilingue en absoluto, a pese de estar a un nivel avanzado. Sin embargo, creo que hay personas que usan la lengua diariamente, por ejemplo en el trabajo o en la casa, que tal vez saben menos palabras, pero pueden usarlas con soltura. Es una suerte de fluidez práctica.

I agree with DR1960 (mostly). I would not at all say that I am bilingual, even though I´m at an "advanced" level. Nevertheless, I think that there are some people who use the language daily, for example at work or at home, who perhaps know fewer words but use them with ease. It´s a sort of practical fluency.

So by the way, how do you say "fluent"? As in "we would call them fluent in their native language"?

updated Oct 26, 2011
posted by kattya
A fluent person is: una persona fluida - RicardoP, Feb 12, 2010
¡gracias! - kattya, Feb 12, 2010
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Muchas gracias a todos por su participación. Lamentablemente no puedo escoger una respuesta como acertada.

En conclusión, una persona bilingue (de acuerdo con académicos y entendidos), es una persona que se puede comunicar sin problemas en dos idiomas. Una persona que habla, lee y escribe bien dos idiomas es considerado "biliterate" (inserto comentario de Shrek, no sé francamente cómo se diga en español).

Cambio y fuera.

updated Oct 26, 2011
posted by RicardoP
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In my opinion, a bilingual person (English-Spanish), is a person that speaks, read and write well both languages, period.

I agree with your definition of "bilingual". There are a lot of "advanced" speakers who are not quite at a level of fluency that would have them considered bilingual.

Side note: can I offer a couple of corrections to your English? Your post should read "...a person that speaks, readS and writeS well IN both languages, period."

updated Oct 26, 2011
posted by DR1960
Completely agree, thanks DR1960. I really appreciate your corrections. - RicardoP, Feb 12, 2010
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searching for information about bilingual I found this book about bilingual education for parents and teachers. Very interesting. It is a free book in spanish. Guía para padres y maestros de niños bilingües

updated Oct 26, 2011
edited by Carlos-F
posted by juluque
why my links are not coming out. :-( - juluque, Feb 12, 2010
I've tried to fix it. No success. - 00e657d4, Feb 12, 2010
Creo que ahora funcionará.... - Carlos-F, Feb 14, 2010
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Oops. Double post.

updated Feb 12, 2010
edited by samdie
posted by samdie