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How should "se ayudaran" be understood?

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In the sentence that follows I am having a hard time understanding "se ayudaran". Is it subjunctive? "Por eso era muy necesario que se ayudaran con bondad."

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updated Nov 2, 2009
posted by katrinks

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¡Hola!, Katrinks:

Here is my longer explantion of it all:

Por eso era muy necesario que se ayudaran con bondad.

Think of your sentence saying this;

“On a continuing basis in the past it was necessary to give them ongoing help."

In this way, because the activity was continuous in the past, the imperfect of ser, which is “era”, was used. If the verb which precedes ayudar is conjugated in the imperfect, then so must ayudar be conjugated in the past and in this case in the imperfect subjunctive which is “ayudaran”. Where the action was ongoing in the past “era” and”ayudaran” which are both past imperfect are used and “ayudaran is expressed in the subjunctive.

I hope this helps.

Moe

updated Nov 1, 2009
edited by Moe
posted by Moe
thanks. this is a great explanation! - katrinks, Nov 1, 2009
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Yes, it's subjuntive...

"...que se ayudaran con bondad." Who? ....Ellos (each other).

For that reason it was very necessary that they were helped with kindness.

updated Nov 1, 2009
posted by Carlos-F
I suspect that the intent was "that they help each other". - samdie, Nov 1, 2009
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To me it translates as "It was necessary that they helped each other with kindness".

Ayudaran is the third person plural of the imperfect subjunctive. If I am right with my translation I can see no reason why it is used here. After all, isn't it a fact that this has already happened.

Another thought just crossed my mind. My knowledge of Spanish grammar isn't the best, particularly the subjunctive, so some native help would be appreciated, hehe.

Second thought, isn't the subjunctive necessary after "es necesario que".

Eddy

updated Nov 1, 2009
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posted by Eddy
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Please miss, so is correct spelling. There are only two E's in see not nineteen. On the floor with you, hehe

updated Nov 1, 2009
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posted by Eddy
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Es necesario que...triggers subjunctive, Eddy!! Dunce corner it is !!

Please miss it was a question without the question mark?

updated Nov 1, 2009
posted by Eddy
seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!! Please remember correct punctuation is mandatory on this site! - 00494d19, Nov 1, 2009
jejejejej, ::::rolling on the floor:::: - 00494d19, Nov 1, 2009
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Es necesario que...triggers subjunctive, Eddy!! Dunce corner it is !!

updated Nov 1, 2009
posted by 00494d19