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Presently - means "now" or "later" lets have a vote.

Presently - means "now" or "later" lets have a vote.

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How about a vote on above?

If anyone says it means both then please justify.

"At present" means "now"

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updated Oct 29, 2009
edited by ian-hill
posted by ian-hill

23 Answers

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Hi guys here is the Result

22 responses (not all votes/answers)

Chaparrito both USA

Cheeseis yumm both ?

Samdie both USA

Webdunce both x2 ?

Marianne now USA

DJ Huero now USA

Irev0474 both USA

Shiela –foste later UK

Kittybrougha both USA

Moe ? Canada

Izanoni both( I think) USA

Lorenzo later/both USA

Heidita was now (now both) Spain

Lopek both USA

Sofiasonia both Canada

EJclaire both ?

My vote later UK

The only 2 UK votes went for "later" ( I would never use presently to mean now)

Only 2 votes went for "now" both from the USA

Moe didn't state a preference.

If cheeseisyumm, webdunce and Ejclaire are from the USA then all the "both" votes are from the USA.

Heidita learnt a new meaning for "presently". So it was not a complete waste of time. (But nearly)

I can't remember who posted the 48%-52% statistic but this about what we got here.

Chau for now Ian

updated Oct 29, 2009
edited by ian-hill
posted by ian-hill
here's a vote to bump this up so everyone can see it - Izanoni1, Oct 29, 2009
Ditto from me. ¡Fue divertido! - chaparrito, Oct 29, 2009
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A surprising amount of controversy. In my experience/reading "presently" is used with two different meanings. When used with a verb in the present tense (especially, the present progressive, e.g. "He is presently working as ...") it simply means "now" and is exactly equivalent to "currently" (which, given the origin of each word, is not surprising). When used with a future verb (e.g. "I'll be there presently.") the situation is a bit more complex. In Shakespeare's day, this meant "right away" or "momentarily" but in modern English it's meaning is often extended to "soon" / "shortly". If one meant "in ten minutes, or so", I think Shakespeare would have said "I'll be there anon."

Of course, Shakespeare is long dead and language, for better or worse, moves on.

updated Oct 28, 2009
posted by samdie
Okay, I'm just gonna have to vote for this answer. It agrees with my own opinions and therefore must be correct. ;-) - webdunce, Oct 28, 2009
jejeje me too webdunce. And I'd vote for your comment for the same reason jeje - Valerie, Oct 28, 2009
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Here's what I found at princeton.edu for the word presently:

S: (adv) soon, shortly, presently, before long (in the near future) "the doctor will soon be here"; "the book will appear shortly"; "she will arrive presently"; "we should have news before long"

S: (adv) presently, currently (at this time or period; now) "he is presently our ambassador to the United Nations"; "currently they live in Connecticut"

From this I would say it means both now and the near future.

updated Oct 28, 2009
posted by chaparrito
I would accept that Chaparito but I would say "He is at present our ....." - ian-hill, Oct 28, 2009
I noticed the word 'presently' is in the title, but 'at present' is in the post. I think these have distinct meanings. My vote was for the meaning of 'Presently'. ;-) - chaparrito, Oct 28, 2009
I'm with Chaparrito, there is a conflict in the words turning it into a trick poll. - Moe, Oct 28, 2009
a "Trick Poll" it was not meant to be. Sorry. - ian-hill, Oct 28, 2009
Yeah context makes it both in my opinion. - cheeseisyummy, Oct 28, 2009
If this was about personal usage, then I'd say "now". I don't ever say "I'll be with you presently", but '... in a minute/second/bit.' - chaparrito, Oct 28, 2009
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I say that presently means now.

updated Oct 29, 2009
posted by --Mariana--
Then why not say "now" Marianne? :) - ian-hill, Oct 28, 2009
because...as I am sure that you are aware, we are not robots and part of the richness of language is that it lets us express ideas in many different ways - Izanoni1, Oct 28, 2009
Yes I am aware that we are not robots - at least most of us are not. - ian-hill, Oct 29, 2009
Actually....well, this is a bit embarassing, but...I can't actually confirm that I am not a robot. It becomes even more dubious the earlier in the morning it is. - Izanoni1, Oct 29, 2009
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I vote for both. I usually use it to mean currently, but I think it can be used to mean "any minute now".

updated Oct 29, 2009
posted by kittybrougham
Yes it can Kitty - ian-hill, Oct 29, 2009
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Here's another expert's opinion:

In my opinion, using "presently" to mean "now" is unnecessary ("now" is a perfectly good word). And using "presently" in the accepted sense of "soon" sounds stiff and pretentious. ("Soon" is another perfectly good word.) Since there's an ambiguity to the word anyway, I tend not to use it at all.

updated Oct 28, 2009
posted by lorenzo9
That makes sense. Who's the expert? - chaparrito, Oct 28, 2009
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This is copied from Webster's:

pres-ent-ly (prez'uhnt lee) adv.

              1.  in a little while; soon.
              2.  at the present time; now.
              3.  Archaic. immediately.
         [1350-1400]
         Usage. The meaning " now " of PRESENTLY dates back 
         to the 15th century; it is currently in standard 
         use in all varieties of speech and writing. The 
         sense " soon " arose gradually during the 16th 
         century. Strangely, it is the older sense that 
         usage guides sometimes object to. The two senses 
         are rarely if ever confused. PRESENTLY meaning " 
         now " is most often used with the present tense 
         (The professor is presently on sabbatical leave) 
         and PRESENTLY meaning " soon " often with the 
         future tense (The supervisor will be back 
         presently).

If I didn't see that, I'd be sure that "presently" means "now". Presently, I have to vote for both.

updated Oct 28, 2009
posted by sofiasonja
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My first assumption for the use of the word would be that it is meaning "now." For instance, "I am presently at home." However, based on the context it is used it could, of course, also mean "soon." For instance, "I will be home presently." I do not feel that either use of the word is wrong, although its use as "now" is far more common to me than "soon."

updated Oct 28, 2009
edited by kopek
posted by kopek
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FAscinating, I always thought presently was a synomym for now.

Omg...I just found this on thesaurus.com:

Definition: in a short while

Synonyms: anon, before long, before you know it, by and by, directly, down the line, down the pike, down the road, immediately, in a minute, in a moment, in a short time, now, nowadays, pretty soon, shortly, soon, today, without delay

Notes: momentarily means 'in a moment'; presently means 'soon' or 'shortly'

presently means 'soon, shortly, before long' while at present means 'at the time of speaking'

Antonyms: eventually, later, never

updated Oct 28, 2009
posted by 00494d19
I imagine for every source that claims presently cannot be used to mean "at present" there could be a countersource that contends the exact opposite. - Izanoni1, Oct 28, 2009
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How many native English speakers who think that presently means now studied English in the Commonwealth? This may be an Americanism, since the English classes I had where this usage was considered incorrect were in Australia. On the other hand, I seem to recall a tirade by a Trevanian character on exactly this subject.

updated Oct 28, 2009
posted by lorenzo9
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I will not go so far as to say that this is an incorrect usage, but what I will say is that using it in this manner seems to be (or probably at least originated in) a use of hyperbole.

For example, if someone asks, "Have you started typing your reports yet," you could reply "No, but I will start them right now/right away/presently." This is not to say that you will actually do them "at this very moment," but is a way to state (using hyperbole) that you will get to them very soon (as soon as possible).

All in all, I think that the argument or attempt at a consensus is a bit meaningless as word usage varies not only from country to country but from region to region within a given country. It would be like arguing about the word "mande" trying to say that when someone from Mexico uses this to say "Excuse me," that person is using incorrect Spanish.

As I have stated before, language is not static and it is not owned by a single group or authority. It is owned and shaped by the people that use it, and I would assert that if millions of people use the word in this way then it makes no sense to try to cross it out of the language. In the end, it is simply a stylistic difference.

updated Oct 28, 2009
edited by Izanoni1
posted by Izanoni1
We could always have a committee to protect the language like they do in France. ;) - lorenzo9, Oct 28, 2009
That hasn't worked out so well has it? Germany tried the same for "computer speak" and gave up. - ian-hill, Oct 28, 2009
...Grab your torch and pitchfork...it's time to purify the language! - Izanoni1, Oct 28, 2009
As far as "committees to protect the language" are concerned if you look a bit closer, you will find this a common theme across many languages. France has its Committee; England has its OED; Spain has its RAE. - Izanoni1, Oct 28, 2009
The idea is not new nor limited to a single culture (and yes, as Ian has stated in a previous thread America has its Noah Webster). - Izanoni1, Oct 28, 2009
Great, a committee. Don't you remember that a camel is a horse assembled by a committee. - Moe, Oct 28, 2009
nice one Moe - Izanoni1, Oct 28, 2009
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I have always used it to mean both...

He will be here presently. (He's not here yet, but he will be shortly).

Presently, there are 3 options. (There are currently 3 options).

Merriam-Webster agrees

updated Oct 28, 2009
edited by webdunce
posted by webdunce
At once is the archaic meaning...without undue delay is not archaic. - webdunce, Oct 28, 2009
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I am here reminded of the exclamation of Lewis Carroll's red queen in his book Alice in Wonderland. To the red queen, Carroll attributes the expression:

"Words mean exactly what I want them to mean".

Do we have some red queen imitators in the house today?

Ian, this is one of the fun threads.

updated Oct 28, 2009
posted by Moe
I am in agreement with you. Excuse the fomality of my response kind sir :) - ian-hill, Oct 28, 2009
:-D This IS fun. I'm sure no one will go as far as: "OFF with his head!" - chaparrito, Oct 28, 2009
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My Grandparents, who were educated in England before the turn of the last century (and yes, I am talking about c1900 here!) always used "presently" to refer to the near future. They would say "I'll do that presently", meaning that it would be the next thing they did.

They would have said that Obama was "currently" the president of the USA.

Having said that, modern American English is another language entirely from 19th century English English!

updated Oct 28, 2009
edited by sheila-foster
posted by sheila-foster
Well said! And so it goes with any language over time. :-) - chaparrito, Oct 28, 2009
Was it Churchill or Shaw who quipped that as between Yanks and Brits, they are "One people divided by a common language". The division continues. Meanwile us Canucks try to straddle the issue with a foot in each place. - Moe, Oct 28, 2009
Moe - please excuse my ignorance but who are the Canucks? - ian-hill, Oct 28, 2009
"Canucks" = Canadians - Izanoni1, Oct 28, 2009
Thank you Izanoni - ian-hill, Oct 28, 2009
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I also vote for "presently" meaning now in everyday American English usage. I am satisfied that the dictionary definition of "presently" indicates dual usage, but I believe the most common usage and understanding of the term "presently" refers to something occurring right now. I think "at present" is probably more grammatically correct, but few people would say, "At present, I am working on..." instead of "I am presently working on...".

This is a good example of how I hope to learn Spanish. While I don't want to be grammatically incorrect, I also don't want to sound like a Shakespearean actor in the 21st century world. If there are two competing definitions for a word, or ways to express something, I would prefer to learn the most socially appropriate way so that I can blend in better with native speakers.

updated Oct 28, 2009
posted by jrey0474