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Él está viejo y enfermo

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Is "Él es viejo, y está infermo." more correct? - because he will always be old but maybe not always ill. Or are they both correct?

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updated Sep 28, 2009
posted by ian-hill

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They both sound correct to me.

Él es viejo is more of a CID usage in that he is an old person rather than he is a young or middle aged person.

Él está viejo emphasisizes the use as an adjective imbuing him with the attributes of an older person (less physical stamina, decreased senses, waning abilities-God, I love getting old)

Another example of when the permanent/temporary argument does not work.

updated Sep 28, 2009
edited by 0074b507
posted by 0074b507
Is somebody having a senior moment? :-) - Izanoni1, Sep 28, 2009
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It is really very common to hear the following conversation: "Hola, ¿cómo está tu papá?". "Está viejo y enfermo"

updated Sep 28, 2009
posted by RicardoP
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Isn't "viejo" also Mexican slang for "dude"?

Qué onda, viejo!

updated Sep 28, 2009
posted by mateo2
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Él está viejo sounds better to me.

updated Sep 28, 2009
posted by --Mariana--
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...está viejo y enfermo is the more common phrase

updated Sep 28, 2009
posted by 00b83c38
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Samdie...yea for me, he'd be viejo, period. El es viejo, enfermo, y tambien un poco feo. LOL wink

updated Sep 28, 2009
posted by ChamacoMalo
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Es is correct to say for being old because being old is a permanent condition and being sick (usually) is not.

updated Sep 28, 2009
edited by Vince_Peña
posted by Vince_Peña
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@Richaro...Depends on where you are! Where I am, I'd call my papi viejo. Como esta, viejo? When I see that fat guy, yo le digo a el, Que bola, gordo? That's just here. I don't know what particular style of speech others use from other places. wink

updated Sep 28, 2009
edited by ChamacoMalo
posted by ChamacoMalo
I have heard elders be referred to (affectionately) as "viejo" as well. - Izanoni1, Sep 28, 2009
I have also heard overweight children affably called "gordito" before, but it always seemed somewhat passive aggressive to me - Izanoni1, Sep 28, 2009
In several hispanic countries we refer to mom and dad as "viejo-a" - RicardoP, Sep 28, 2009
Es columbiano, si? - ChamacoMalo, Sep 28, 2009
Where I grew up (the south) we used "old woman, old man" as a term of affection as well. You were in the family typically. - Jason7R, Sep 28, 2009
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To me, "está viejo" sounds just as odd as "está joven". (Es decir no me suenan, ni pizco.)

updated Sep 28, 2009
posted by samdie