Different Levels of Fluency

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For all of you asking when you will be fluent, realize that there are different levels of fluency. Some are more obtainable in short amount then others. This was written about French, but it could apply to any languages

Yay! Then I'm fluent. (At an extremely low level of fluency :-) ) - elainepnj, Jul 28, 2011

Answer 1

I most certainty fit into this definition of an "intermediate" level

uses the present, past, and future tenses more or less correctly; and is aware of difficult grammar topics (e.g., subjunctive, relative pronouns), but either uses them incorrectly or awkwardly rearranges sentences in order to avoid them. Still needs to tote a dictionary and/or phrase book around, but can survive in an immersion situation...

Ha. Me too, but not sure if I'm even at that level yet. - Goyo, Sep 26, 2009

I've survived and enjoyed immersion in Mexico but I constantly avoid using the subjunctive! - --Mariana--, Sep 26, 2009

I'm envious! - Goyo, Sep 26, 2009

I belive thats me then! - amyfreelance, Sep 26, 2009

I would say that is me too, but I am not sure if I could survive in an immersion siutation. - BellaMargarita, Mar 26, 2010

I use the subjunctive mood but mostly in writing rather than spoken Spanish and mostly present subjucntive - FELIZ77, Jul 22, 2010

Not a proficiant as you mariana, but i survive pretty well in immersion, can actually hold a conversation. - pacofinkler, Jul 28, 2011

Answer 2

''uses the present, past, and future tenses more or less correctly; and is aware of difficult grammar topics (e.g., subjunctive, relative pronouns), but either uses them incorrectly or awkwardly rearranges sentences in order to avoid them. Still needs to tote a dictionary and/or phrase book around, but can survive in an immersion situation..''.

I am also an intermediate in that some of these qualities are true for me: I can use past present and future tenses more or less correctly'' (accurately) and am aware of difficult grammar issues but in reality I am somewhere between intermediate and advanced in that I do not avoid using the subjunctive and frequemtly use complex sentence constructions - often including idioms in my written sentences like ;;Word of the day'' and Picture of the day as Vicente, Deanski and Heidi will probably all confirm, ot forgetting Cogumela too

I am becoming more confident in using both the present and imperfect subjunctive mood and with increasing accuracy in regard to the present and occasionally the imperfect subjunctive. I mention this because I do not re-arrange sentences to avoid using them.

I have not yet, regrettably, reached the stage/level where all the qualities of an advanced Spanish speaker are applicable to me. I need to watch Spanish films and read more Spanishliterature including newspapers before that could truly be said to apply to me. Onwards and upwards

Reading: intermediate Writing: Intermediate to advanced Speaking: Intermediate

I feel tha same way. If you need a good book on the subjunctive. I recommend Eric Vogt´s the Spanish Subiunctive Up Close. - BellaMargarita, Jul 28, 2011

Thank you very much Bella :) - FELIZ77, Jul 29, 2011

Answer 3

I am bumping this up, since it also gives a good denfinition of the different levels.

Great thread, Margarita :) - GuitarWarrior, Jul 28, 2011

Answer 4

I am definitely a novice, slowly edging towards survivor.

I am not convinced you need to speak a language from such an early age to reach native levels. My brother in law, Spanish, speaks Greek very well and gets asked what part of the country he comes from, people think he is Greek but they can't quite place his accent.

Ah, esto es me sueño por español. - elainepnj, Jul 28, 2011

Answer 5

Reading: intermediate to advanced

Writing : intermediate

Listening: Novice

Speaking: Exiled

Answer 6

Wait!

When you speak fluently it doesn't mean how co-ordinate you are while writing. If you are coherent etc...

That applies to spoken language.

Am I wrong?