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"to lunch" versus "to have lunch"

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How do you say "almorcé pizza" in English?

I think that the best sentence could be: "I had pizza at lunch", but I am not sure about: I took pizza at lunch or something I am going to ask although it sounds a bit surprising.

Well, when I look "almorzar" up in the dictionary, I see: have lunch or lunch. Then, I wonder if also "I lunch pizza" is possible. I am curious about the possible answers.

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updated Sep 6, 2009
posted by nila45
Como siempre muy interesante tu pregunta Nila :) - 00494d19, Sep 5, 2009

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Hi Nila

Then, I wonder if also "I lunch pizza" is possible.

No, this would not be said in English

I took pizza at lunch

This one is awkward as well. It almost sounds as if you had stolen the pizza during your lunchtime.

However, if you said that you "took pizza for lunch," this would seem like you were saying that you "brought pizza with you to eat during lunch."

"I had pizza at lunch"

This is probably the best one that you have come up with

I believe that a literal definition might be to use the intransitive verb form of lunch

I lunched on pizza

However, I can also say that you will likely never hear anyone say it like this. For the most part, an English speaker would not use the intransitive verb form of the meal to express that the ate something (except the rare occasion where someone might say, "I dined on something."

The reason that you wouldn't be likely to hear someone speak like this is that it sounds extremely pretentious.

The best (most common) way to say this in English would probably be one of the following

I ate pizza for/at lunch

I had pizza for/at lunch

updated Sep 21, 2009
edited by Izanoni1
posted by Izanoni1
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This Monkey knows that "Lunch" is an abbreviation for "Luncheon".

Well I am not sure which dictionary you are taking your information from either. Mine is from Webster's New World dictionary which lists luncheon and lunch under separate listings and with separate origins.

lunch [earlier, a piece, thick piece < ?: first appears as rendering of Sp. longja, slice of ham, which it formerly paralleled in pronun.]

luncheon [earlier lunchion, lunshin < prec., prob. after dial. nuncheon a snack, lunch < ME, nonachenche, lit., noon drink]

And yes, lunch is listed as both a noun and an intransitive verb.

Now even though Nila was concerned only with lunch, I will still address your other idea regarding dinner and dined. First, I never suggested that dinner should be made into dinnered. In fact, I did just the opposite. In my example I used the intransitive verb dined.

You do realize that both dinner and dine come from the exact same root words

dine [ME. dinen < OFr. disner < VL. disjejunare < *dis-, away + LL. jejunare, to fast < L. jejunus, fasting]

dinner [ME. diner < OFr. *disner, inf. used as n.: see DINE]

The difference is that dinner, having a separate verb tense, will always be a noun, and the action of dining (having dinner) is indicated by the intransitive verb dine.

Similarly, breakfast is also listed as both an intransitive verb and as a noun and would require the same type of construction as lunch.

updated Sep 6, 2009
posted by Izanoni1
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This Monkey knows that "Lunch" is an abbreviation for "Luncheon". You cannot put verb endings such as "ed" on the end of abbreviated nouns such as Lunch or for that matter change Dinner into Dinnered. There is a seperate verb that exists"to dine" and is the action for dining so why would anyone want to put a verb ending on the Noun "Dinner" when a seperate verb already exists. The same applies for Breakfast and Luncheon.

What Dictionary you have been looking in?. Americans are always putting verb endings on Nouns, it seems they can't stop themselves from doing it.

..... Anyway Blondie, changing your hair colour suits you but it's had a detrimental affect on your grammar jajaja.

updated Sep 6, 2009
edited by Mark-Baker
posted by Mark-Baker
Actually, I've got a 1984 copy of Funk & Wagnall's Desk Dictionary, and it lists both breakfast and lunch as intransitive verbs (as well as nouns, of course). Just to let you know. - webdunce, Sep 6, 2009
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You cannot use Lunch, Breakfast or Dinner as verbs because they are all nouns. Therefore "to Lunch" is not English, likewise adding "ed" verb endings to nouns such as Lunched, Breakfasted etc will not be correct either.

updated Sep 6, 2009
posted by Mark-Baker
That's not true. You can say "I lunched with my Mom today." "I dined with my brother yesterday." You've never heard this? - --Mariana--, Sep 5, 2009
Everyone has heard "I dined" because dine is clearly a verb. And while the dictionary does mention that breakfast and lunch can be used as verbs I have never heard anyone say "lunched" or "breakfasted" in all my life. - Goyo, Sep 5, 2009
I also have never heard "breakfasted." However, I've heard "lunched" used when the speaker is pretentious. - --Mariana--, Sep 5, 2009
I have heard breakfasted, I think, but it's rare. The use of these verbs probably varies regionally. - webdunce, Sep 5, 2009
What do monkeys know about lunching and dining eh??? lol - 00494d19, Sep 5, 2009
No soy un mono, chica mala! - Goyo, Sep 5, 2009
jejeI only meant the real monkey of course, Mark is THE monkey of this forum : - 00494d19, Sep 6, 2009
Oh! I wondered where you were going with that. I didn't think about Mark! jeje - Goyo, Sep 6, 2009
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La mejor manera de decirlo está..... Yo comí pizza al almuerzo

I ate pizza at/for lunch......

Mucho más simple.....

updated Sep 6, 2009
edited by PapoPaz
posted by PapoPaz
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Re: Dine with me

I accept your kind offer - providing you control yourself. jajajaja tongue rolleye

updated Sep 6, 2009
posted by Mark-Baker
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You cannot use Lunch, Breakfast or Dinner as verbs because they are all nouns. Therefore "to Lunch" is not English,

I don't like repeating myself, but you did say lunch and breakfast could not be used as a verb. Of course you can use dine, not dinner. Hmmm, I am not dining with you, but I might one day lunch or breakfast with you and after we have lunched...... tongue laugh

updated Sep 6, 2009
posted by 00494d19
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I breakfasted/lunched/dined ... are all possible. I wouldn't call them "pretentious" but they certainly are not colloquial.

I had XXX at YYY. (where XXX is whatever you ate and YYY is either the time at which you ate [especially if it is not the usual hour] or the place where you ate. It is possible to use breakfast/lunch/dinner for YYY but it is certainly not common. The most common expression would be "I had XXX for lunch."

In the above, XXX is, basically, what you ate (the main/only dish). The situation changes somewhat if you are talking about something not normally part of lunch. Thus, "I had three glasses of wine at lunch." is a reasonable sentence (but, in this case "at lunch" really means "at lunchtime"). The use of "at" suggests the time rather than what constituted your lunch (perhaps a sandwich/hamburger/salad/etc.). If the only thing that you consumed was the three glasses of wine, the normal phrasing would revert to "had for lunch".

updated Sep 6, 2009
posted by samdie
Of course they're possible but very unlikely. I think she's looking for what sounds like average (yet educated and proper) conversation. When was the last time you heard someone say "I breakfasted." - --Mariana--, Sep 5, 2009
Well I would have to disagree. I believe that about 90% of the time this phrase would come of as pretentious - Izanoni1, Sep 6, 2009
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Maaaaaaak, are you sure you are English? big surprise

Ever heard of the programme "Dine with me" in your country?

updated Sep 5, 2009
posted by 00494d19
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Yes, to have lunch is the word to use.

I am surprised to see this:

Resultados 1 - 10 de aproximadamente 29.200 de "I lunched.

But many of the entries are misspellings they wanted to say launched

anyway, I thought it was seldom used.

updated Sep 5, 2009
posted by 00494d19
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I agree with Izanoni: "I had pizza for lunch."

updated Sep 5, 2009
posted by --Mariana--