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The many "Gustas"

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Help me with this:

I know this much here:

I like = Me gusta
You like = Te gusta
They like = Le gusta

But what is "We like" and "He/She likes" and what is the Vosotros/as form of it?

Thank you in advance!

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updated Aug 6, 2010
posted by eric_collins

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You must of posted that while I was typing, thanks you Rocco!

updated Aug 6, 2010
posted by eric_collins
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¡Hola Effjaee y bienvenido a mi tema del foro! After typing up that It came up that it could be "Gustamos y Nos gusta" Could it be both of them? Any answers on the other two I asked for.

updated Aug 6, 2010
posted by eric_collins
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Thank you
What about "We like each other" '

updated Aug 6, 2010
posted by ian-hill
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Help with these please.

I like them. They like me. (people)

The translation tool here does a lousy job with these two sentences.

According to my sources:

I like them = [Ellos] me gustan
They like me = [Yo] les gusto

As usual, the grammar is easy to figure out if you think of "to please":

Ellos me gustan -> they please me
Yo les gusto -> I please them

updated Aug 6, 2010
posted by 00719c95
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Help with these please.

I like them. They like me. (people)

I've been taught that we shouldn't use the word "gustar" for people unless you mean it in a romantic or sexual way.

If you want to say that you get along well with a particular person and you like them in a platonic way you'd say "me cae bien Mary" or "me llevo bien con Mary."

What should you say If you just want to say that you like the as a friend?

Would my sentence "Me gusta estar con mis amigos" be a example or have I typed it nown-sexual? I hope I haven't
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updated Aug 6, 2010
posted by eric_collins
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Help with these please.

I like them. They like me. (people)

I've been taught that we shouldn't use the word "gustar" for people unless you mean it in a romantic or sexual way.

If you want to say that you get along well with a particular person and you like them in a platonic way you'd say "me cae bien Mary" or "me llevo bien con Mary."
Interesting Marianne
So how about "I like them" and "They like me" ''

updated Aug 6, 2010
posted by ian-hill
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Help with these please.

I like them. They like me. (people)

I've been taught that we shouldn't use the word "gustar" for people unless you mean it in a romantic or sexual way.

If you want to say that you get along well with a particular person and you like them in a platonic way you'd say "me cae bien Mary" or "me llevo bien con Mary."

updated Aug 6, 2010
posted by --Mariana--
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Help with these please.
I like them. They like me. (people)
The translation tool here does a lousy job with these two sentences.

updated Aug 6, 2010
posted by ian-hill
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Thank you all very much for your answers, now I know what to do when it comes to that.

updated Aug 6, 2010
posted by eric_collins
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Good "Gustar" Nightmare, Patch!

updated Aug 6, 2010
posted by eric_collins
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Could you have done it? Remember - pressure situation - who is "pleasing" who? Or "displeasing" or "disgusting" who?

I wish there was an easier way (sigh)

If "gustar" doesn't work, try "disgust" in English: would you say "They disgust us" or "We disgust them"? Pick the right one, and do the same with "no gustar" in Spanish. I know the meaning of this verb is much worse than "don't like", but in terms of construction, it should do the trick.

updated Aug 6, 2010
posted by lazarus1907
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My "Gustar nightmare" by Patch

Last year I got talking to a nice Andalucian girl close to where I live (middle of England, and by the way, there are more unicorns than native Spanish speakers around here). She spoke almost no English. Perfect opportunity, then, to practice my Spanish, right? You bet!

So for five minutes we chatted about quite a lot - languages, music, the weather etc etc and I was doing fine! She complimented me on my Spanish! She said that she would like to live in Edinburgh, Scotland. Good idea! I like Scottish people but sometimes...

...THEY DON'T LIKE US...!!!

That was the start of my "Gustar nightmare". Yes I know "A veces no nos llevamos bien" would have avoided the problem altogether but I didn't think of that.

After 30 secs of saying "umm...a ellos...ehhhm...no les gust...mmm...no nos...ehhhhmmmm........" to a bewildered looking Spanish lass - I lost my nerve, made an excuse and went back to the bar.

Could you have done it? Remember - pressure situation - who is "pleasing" who? Or "displeasing" or "disgusting" who?

I wish there was an easier way (sigh)

Patch

updated Aug 6, 2010
posted by patch
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Thanks, Lazarus, once again! Lots of information that will take time and practice to master. Another of those things that is easier caught than taught.

updated Aug 6, 2010
posted by hhmdirocco
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I wonder if the same variation/subjectivity exists in Spanish.

It does. The number agreement when there is coordination is sometimes subject to interpretation, and even the position of the words in the sentence (if you start with several coordinated elements, the chances of agreement in plural are much higher).

Me gusta la lengua y la literatura

Here, "la lengua y la literatura" is considered as a whole, so singular is chosen. However, in

El chorizo y la cerveza me gustan mucho

the plural is fine, but if you alter the order of the elements, most people would never use the plural here:

Me gustan mucho el chorizo y la cerveza big surprise
Me gusta mucho el chorizo y la cerveza

Subordinate clauses are always regarded as singular, but if you use coordinated clauses, although there exists the possibility of using a plural agreement, it happens very rarely, and only with infinitives that are regarded practically as common nouns. These sentences are unacceptably weird:

Me gustan nadar y correr big surprise
Nadar y correr me gustan big surprise

In this case, what you like is a list of activities, no matter how many. But I am sure that one can find an example where you can find something similar in plural, but in most situations, singular agreement is the thing to expect.

With copulative verbs, however, it is easier to do this:

Nadar y correr son actividades saludables

because "ser" makes the left and the right sides of the sentence equal or equivalent, and it would be very weird to say that swimming and running are one activity. Remove "actividades", and you'll be forced to revert to singular again:

Nadar y correr es entrenido

Anyway, agreement rules can get quite tricky if we start considering complex situations.

updated Aug 6, 2010
posted by lazarus1907
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Good question, Q. Hopefully Lazarus or some other knowing individual will help us with that. Grammatically, it seems like it should be gustan in both instances. But I hear things like you mention: "Me gusta nadar y jugar con mis amigos." I wonder, myself, if that is colloquial, or is that some grammatical feature or construction that we don't know about.

Or, like you say, it could be a matter of perspective, whether the two verbs are considered a unit--that one is done with the other. In English, I could see it both ways:

"Swimming and hanging out with my friends are things I like to do."
"Swimming and hanging out with my friends is something I like to do." (Here the "swimming and hanging out" would be considered one activity done with the friends, kind of like "eating and drinking" or "fussing and fighting.")

I would expect to hear "Fussing and fighting is bad for a marriage" more than "Fussing and fighting are bad for a marriage." They are considered to go hand in hand.

However, "Financial difficulties and infidelity are bad for a marriage." These are not considered to be closely related (necessarily).

I wonder if the same variation/subjectivity exists in Spanish.

updated Aug 6, 2010
posted by hhmdirocco