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no sabia que fueras asi- no sabia que fuera mala palabra . why is it subjuntivo?

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no sabia que fueras asi- no sabia que fuera mala palabra . why is it subjuntivo?

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updated JUL 2, 2010
posted by esperanzaymar

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verbs of negation

First, let's clear up that saber is like creer and not a "trigger" verb. Verbs can be used with the indicative mood to declare a fact or with the subjunctive mood to express a reaction to a fact. Certain "trigger" verbs when used with subordinate clauses always express reactions to the clause (like the verbs of emotions, doubt, denial, etc.) and aren't used with the indicative mood for making declarations.

So with saber and a subordinate clause verb in the indicative mood were are expressing some fact contained in the clause.

El sabía que la puerta estaba cerrada. The dependent clause verb is in the indicative mood and we are expressing the fact that the door was closed.

When use use saber in negation and the verb in the dependent clause in the subjunctive mood we are expressing a reaction (subjective state of awareness) to the fact that the door was shut.

No sabía que la puerta estuviera cerrada.

He was unaware that the door was shut.

Using the subjunctive mood we have shifted from declaring the fact that the door was shut to a subjective expression of the subject's reaction to that fact. Now the emphasis is placed on He was unaware of something.

The difficulty is to stop thinking of "triggering" events. It's not that saber que... triggers the indicative and no saber que...triggers that subjunctive mood. It's that saber que is used for declaring something and no saber que is used for expressing a subjective state rather than declaring a fact. So you decide the mood of the subordinate clause (whether you are trying to declare or express a reaction), then you decide whether you need saber or no saber. The same situation exists with creer and no creer. When you wish to emphasis your reaction to something (express your disbelief) you use no creer and the subjunctive mood, when you wish to declare what you believe you use creer and the indicative mood.

updated JUL 2, 2010
edited by 0074b507
posted by 0074b507
so ,can it not be ' no sabia que la puerta estaba cerrada or no sabia que la puerta habia cerrado? - esperanzaymar, JUL 2, 2010
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