English and Spanish Language Learners....2/23/11

Question

Good morning everybody!! (at least for me it is!!) These sentences came from Musashi's "Book of Five Rings". Good book by the way. I hope you enjoy these sentences this week. Good luck and give it your all!!
Ground Rules: First, this is for English and Spanish Language Learners. The English Language Learners will have to post their corrections in English. The Spanish Language Learners will need to post their answers in Spanish (Native English speakers will need to correct the sentences in their heads and then translate them into Spanish!!). Second, there is no "dumb" answer and all answers will be respected and if need be, corrected in a gentle manner by yours truly (or of course any admin that stops by to look). Third, have fun!! Remember this is a learnering experience, especially for me, so the sentences M U S T be your own work: you cannot copy from the translator, books or any other source.
To be corrected:
1. Know man iz envensable, and theirfour know man can fuly under-stand that witch woold make him envensable.
2. It is imporetent too understand whut the gooaal of an “art” iz.
3. If their iz no discipline, howe can their bea a true realization of an ideal?
4. A warrior iz responsible fore hiz own weapons just as a craftsman iz responsible fore hiz own tuools.
5. A warrior must bea proficient n awll the tools of hiz traide.

Answer 1

Good morning, Jason

1. No man is invincible, and therefore, no man can fully understand that which would make him invisible.
2. It is important to understand what the goal of an ''art'' is.
3. If there is no discipline, how can there be a true realization of an ideal?
4. A warrior is responsible for his own weapons, just as a craftsman is responsible for his own tools.
5. A warrior must be proficient in all the tools of his trade??

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Thanks for the exercise and have a nice day

• Look at the phonetics in the first sentence...instead of "invisible" try another word. #5 awesome! You forgot one small word in #4. :) Way to work Lovely!! Great start!! - Jason7R Feb 23, 2011
• I agree Lovely - but have a vote.. - ian-hill Feb 23, 2011
• Thanks Jason & Ian :) - lovely_lovel Feb 24, 2011

Answer 2

1 No hombre es invencible, y por tanto, no hombre puede comprende completamente eso cuál haría lo invencible.

2 Es importante a comprende qué es el objectivo de un "arte".

3 Si no hay disciplina, cómo poder allí es un realización verdadero de un ideal?

4 Un guerrero es responsable para su armas, justamente como un artesano para su herramienta.

5 Un guerrero debe ser competente en todos las herramienta de su comercio.

• I'm glad you posted Leatha... "invisible" is another word. Love the effort here. #2 "conprende" needs another look and #3...allí es...there is one word in spanish that should be there for those words. This should get you started....besos - Jason7R Feb 23, 2011
• Oh, invincible! When I use my ipadI don't have as big a screen so I was looking at Lovely's work. Oops! - Leatha Feb 23, 2011

Answer 3

1. No man is invincible, and therefore no man can fully understand that witch would make him invincible.
2. It is important to understand what the goal of an “art” iz.
3. If there is no discipline, how can there be a true realization of an ideal?
4. A warrior is responsible fore his own weapons just as a craftsman is responsible for his own tools.
5. A warrior must be proficient and own the tools of his trade.?

Thanks for the exercise.

Answer 4

1. Ningún hombre es invencible, y por eso ningún hombre puede comprender perfectamente lo que le haría invencible.
2. Es importante entender lo que es la meta de un "arte."
3. Si no hay disciplina, ¿cómo puede existir una realización de un ideal?
4. Un guerrero tiene la responsabilidad de sus propias armas tanto como un artesano tiene la responsabilidad de sus propias herramientas.
5. Un guerrero debe ser proficiente en todos los instrumentos de su oficio.

• nice work bassflute (love the name by the way), Nice sentences. :) - Jason7R Feb 24, 2011

Answer 5

1) No man is invincible and therefore no man can fully understand what would make him invincible.

2) It is important to understand what the goal of "art" is.

3) If there is no discipline, how can there be a true realization of an ideal?

4) A warrior is responsible for his own weapons just as a craftsman is responsible for his own tools.

5) A warrior must be proficient in all the tools of his trade.

Very funny exercise, I had no idea what you meant by art, jeje, is that simply art like in arte? If that is so, the article should be removed I think, well, let me know, lol, I accept dunce corner banishment, after all Quentin is there with a good assortment of beer

• Never banished chica!! ;) - Jason7R Mar 5, 2011

Answer 6

My attempt:

1	No hombre es invencible, y por tanto no hombre puede entender eso cúal le haría invencible.
2	Es importante comprender qué el objetivo de "un arte" es.
3	Si no hay disciplina, ¿cómo puede haber una realización verdadera de un ideal?
4	Un guerrero es responsable para sus armas propias justo tan un artesano es responsable para sus herramientas propias.
5	Un guerrero debe ser competente en todas las herramientas de su oficio.

• Good job getting "invincible" bandit. :) way to work on #3 as well, "hay" love that little word. :) - Jason7R Feb 24, 2011
• One of the first verbs we learned; there is, there are - hay with the silent h! Gracias, Jason! - bandit51jd Feb 24, 2011

Answer 7

Wasn't sure if others saw this today. I know I'm a little less than consistent in regards to posting this thread every two to three days but I figured why not bump this up to see if anybody else is going to post. Hope everybody had a great day....or if you are starting your day...Have a great day!!

Answer 8

I'm seeing the last post was 6 hours ago, so if nobody posts by tonight I will post the answers when I get back from work (unless it's another late night and then I will post tomorrow morning). Have a great day one and all!!

• Just thought you'd like to know snow is in the forecast for tonight, central illinois, hope it doesn't cause you to much trouble! - bandit51jd Feb 24, 2011
• Oh my word!! :) Shouldn't be too much trouble here. I'm off to work...I know I said I didn't have to work today but an emergency came up at one of the job sites...such is life. :) I'll get the answers to you-guys soon. Thanks for the patience!! :) - Jason7R Feb 25, 2011

Answer 9

Here we go...Life happens, it's been crazy (a common theme for me and the Arnold household). First, I must apologize for the 10 day time lapse and second, thanks to all that have posted and gave a solid effort, your diligence is apprecaited.
Corrections:
1. No man is invincible, and therefore no man can fully understand that which would make him invincible.
2. It is important to understand what the goal of an “art” is.
3. If there is no discipline, how can there be a true realization of an ideal?
4. A warrior is responsible for his own weapons just as a craftsman is responsible for his own tools.
5. A warrior must be proficient in all the tools of his trade.
Spanish Translations:
1. Ningún hombre es invencible, y por lo tanto nadie puede comprender lo que le haría invencible.
2. Es importante comprender cuál es el objectivo (o la meta) de “un arte”.
3.Si no hay disciplina, ¿cómo puede haber una verdadera realización de un ideal?
4. Un guerrero tiene responsable de sus armas al igual que un artesano tiene responsable de sus propias herramientas.
5. Un guerrero debe ser competente en todas las herramientas de su oficio.